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  • #46
    The Jews might actually have a valid case for natural selection.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Caligastia
      I am talking about attempts to create equal outcomes in education and employment through the use of racial preferences and quotas.
      Yes, and?
      If you think there has been enough already, then you must think that there has been a decisive scientific answer to the questions of race and intelligence. Do you feel like sharing?
      I'm not looking for an answer. I don't see any point in it. If you do then I'm not going to prevent you from doing research in that area. I think the fact that you have found such an issue so important means you are a racist.
      I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
      - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Caligastia


        Proof of inherent racial differences in intelligence will destroy the justification for racial preferences. These types of programs are based on the assumption that environment completely explains performance differences across groups.
        So you think that if blacks (let's not bother pretending were not talking about them) are determined to be genetically less intelligent than whites, there's going to be no cause to promote racial quotas?
        "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
        "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
        "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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        • #49
          There's no cause to promote racial quotas anyway, so yes.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Kidicious

            Yes, and?


            I'm not looking for an answer. I don't see any point in it. If you do then I'm not going to prevent you from doing research in that area. I think the fact that you have found such an issue so important means you are a racist.
            So you don't think a meritocracy is worth striving for?
            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Caligastia


              Proof of inherent racial differences in intelligence will destroy the justification for racial preferences. These types of programs are based on the assumption that environment completely explains performance differences across groups.
              No they aren't. The assumption is that environment plays some outcomes.
              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Caligastia
                So you don't think a meritocracy is worth striving for?
                No I do not. I think it's a waste of time.
                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                • #53
                  Kid doesn't want a meritocracy for fairly obvious reasons.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Kontiki


                    So you think that if blacks (let's not bother pretending were not talking about them) are determined to be genetically less intelligent than whites, there's going to be no cause to promote racial quotas?
                    We are talking averages, so no.
                    ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                    ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                    • #55
                      What exactly would a difference in "power of reason" mean in practical terms? Are people somehow unable of doing certain things, like having a debate or ordering a pizza? Or is it that they don't get as many nobel prizes? What do we do with the broad majority of white people who don't get nobel prizes either? Questions, questions.

                      As for the "based on science" point, if the "findings" are resulting of a move from fact to interpretation of the fact at some point they are always debatable.
                      Blah

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                        Kid doesn't want a meritocracy for fairly obvious reasons.
                        Yes, I forgot for a second that he's a commie.
                        ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                        ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                          There's no cause to promote racial quotas anyway, so yes.
                          If that were true, there would be no AA or equivalent now. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
                          "The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
                          "you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
                          "I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - Dissident

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Kidicious


                            No they aren't. The assumption is that environment plays some outcomes.
                            If that were the case there would be no controversy over James Watson's comments.
                            ...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
                            ...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - Snotty

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                              Kid doesn't want a meritocracy for fairly obvious reasons.
                              I believe that people should be qualified for their job. That's an achievable goal. Meritocracy is just rhetoric. It's not going to happen.
                              I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                              - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Caligastia


                                If that were the case there would be no controversy over James Watson's comments.
                                I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
                                - Justice Brett Kavanaugh

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