Race, Intelligence, & Genetics or How James Watson pissed off a lot of people.

[Dr Strangelove]

If you think about it the general environment of all the races has been pretty similar throughout most of our existence. First of all, the non-black races separated from Africa only about 70,000 years ago. Until about 12,000 years ago all of the races were hunter-gatherers. Agriculture first was developed by peoples living in what is now Turkey and Iran, then spread to Asia, Europe and Africa at pretty much the same rate. Most of the peoples of the Eastern Hemisphere have lived in tribal cultures practising subsistence agriculture until the last 3000 years, which isn't much time to develop genetic differences. Until about 600 years ago there really wasn't much difference between the standard of living of the average African and the average European, except the average European lived in nascent nation-states. One might even make the supposition that the repressive feudal regimes of Europe might have been expected to select against intelligence.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Agathon
Now you're just grasping at straws. The general consensus among scientists is that race is not a scientifically respectable concept. Enough of your bollocks.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Barnabas
Did Pascal, Newton, Beethoven have kids? I dont think so, and I could think of many others

If you add Bach, the had five on average

[VetLegion]

Proteus, that higher intelligence is linked to greater survivability in harsh conditions I consider self-evident. It is even somwehat of a tautology because intelligence is the ability to adapt to the environment.

About when more intelligent had the chance to reproduce more: it's not a matter of just making more babies, it is a matter of them surviving to adulthood so they can reproduce themselves. In a world without social secutiry networks of today, you can imagine the penalties for the really dumb. On the other hand, the really smart didn't face such penalties (unless insane, but even that was more respected than idiocy).

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Aeson
The sad thing is, for most of human history women didn't have much input in who their mate(s) were.

Nonsense.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
If you think about it the general environment of all the races has been pretty similar throughout most of our existence.

Yet they managed to develop different skin color. If they developed that, why is it unimaginable that there are also other differences?

[Barnabas]

So those who were cautious and played it safe survived more than the reckless and impulsive ones?

[Barnabas]

Originally posted by VetLegion


Yet they managed to develop different skin color. If they developed that, why is it unimaginable that there are also other differences?

Skin colour is all about the sun, on sunny places, the sun kills the light ones and the darker ones survive.

[Barnabas]

By sun I mean skin cancer obviously.

[VetLegion]

Originally posted by Barnabas
So those who were cautious and played it safe survived more than the reckless and impulsive ones?

Yes, seems obvious to me.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

So you have nothing. Time for you to leave the thread.

[Aeson]

Originally posted by VetLegion
Nonsense.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Alternatively, our metrics could be perfectly fine, and different social conditions have a significant effect on IQ.

IMO people in developed countries have higher average IQ because they grew up in a more intellectually stimulating environment.

The Flynn Effect

[Odin]

Originally posted by Kidicious


Let's say there are 100 jobs that require super intelligence. The population is composed 50/50 blacks and whites (just an assumption). There are 100 whites qualified for the jobs and 50 blacks that are qualified. I'm saying that 50 whites should get the jobs and 50 blacks should get the jobs. I don't think that just the smartest 100 of them should get the jobs.

sorry, but that's just wrong. society should be "color-blind" (that is, race should not play any more part in a person getting a job or getting college tuition then one's eye color or hair curliness does). Affirmative Actions only perpetuates and institutionalizes racial divisions.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Agathon
So you have nothing. Time for you to leave the thread.

No, you misunderstand, I was paraphrasing your post.