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Can we just THROW texas out of the union already?

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  • Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
    The question is whether they had any legal obligation to do so, or whether is was an entirely discresionary matter to do so. It is discrethionary under state law, but the defense attoney's appear to be arguing the the discretion is limited by Due Process in the federal constitution. I can not say that I am a scholar on the issue, but that arguement looks like a loser to me. Remember that courts are deciding boies, there are lost matters they have choice over, like most of their internal procedure.
    Thank you. That appears a logical answer. I guess at this point we see where it goes. I presume the "aggrieved" parties still have a legal avenue to force a decision on this issue despite the lack of an actual live client?
    "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
    "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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    • Re: Can we just THROW texas out of the union already?

      The problem is that the supreme court may rule the means of execution for the man unconstitutional, so the court could have stayed open for 20 damn extra minutes to hear an appeal which may have changed this mans fate, or at least delayed his death for another year.
      Originally posted by Vesayen


      At 10am on September 25, the US Supreme Court announced it would review in early 2008 an appeal by two Kentucky death row inmates challenging the legality of the lethal injection.

      The same day, Michael Richard, 48, was due to receive the deadly cocktail at 6pm in southern Texas for the rape and murder of a woman in 1986.
      Looks to me that there had been pretty damn many "delay this just another year" appeals before. Over 20 years of inaction? What if he would've escaped during that time and murdered other victims?

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      • Originally posted by Wezil I presume the "aggrieved" parties still have a legal avenue to force a decision on this issue despite the lack of an actual live client?
        No, that issue is moot. With regard to the Judicial ethics complaint, I expect it will go nowhere unless one of the other judges on the court joins in with an opinion that this actions is contrary to their udnerstanding of this court's rules and allowable procedure. No attorney's or groups of attorneys' opinion on a particular court's rules will stand against the the opinion of the juges who wrote their local rules and administered them. The most likely result is a finding of no grounds, the second most likely result is that plus a finding the attorneys who file it hav abused the grievence process in a attempt to pressure or imtimidate the judge.
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        • Texas will just secede and execute murderers anyway, VJ.
          Two questions.
          What are you going to do then?
          Do you really think we'll care?
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • The C4 helmet might be faster than nitrogene asphyxiation, but also more unusual and certainly crueler to the family of the punished.

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            • Originally posted by SlowwHand
              Texas will just secede and execute murderers anyway, VJ.
              uhh... what is this an answer to?

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              • Hmmm...how about this.

                The condemn wears a C4 helmet, but there's no remote trigger. Rather, the button to explode it is mounted right on the helmet, and whoever pushes it gets blown up as well.

                With some really vile person, we'll get volunteers. But otherwise....

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                • How about this: the person to be executed wears a C4 helmet, then when they don't reckon with it, they get nitrogene asphyxiated!

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                  • I submit the following as another good reason to throw Texas out of the union.



                    Can I start a petition or something to throw Texas out of the United States?

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                    • I think you secretly want to live in Texas.

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