Can we just THROW texas out of the union already?

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Do you know how nitrogene asphyxiation works?

Enough to know that it doesn't kill faster than 8,040 mps.

[Wezil]

Yes, but what of the terror as the explodo-helmet is attached and the attachers evacuate the area? Seconds of absolute panic.

We can gas people as they sleep so they never see it coming.

[Darius871]

You could pretend it's supposed to just be a fitting session. Or even disguise it in the inner lining of a hat, or in a baseball helmet if the prisoner in question gets any yard time. Be creative.

[Wezil]

And who gets to clean up the mess?

[Darius871]

I was going to say other inmates, but then that might tip them off to the ruse. There's plenty of illegal immigrants to hire for the job instead.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Wezil
My understanding of the timeline was the appeal was to be based upon an issue the SC had just that day decided to hear...

No, I believe that was an additional issue being added at the last day, to a appeal on other grounds that they had been working on for some time.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
No, I believe that was an additional issue being added at the last day, to a appeal on other grounds that they had been working on for some time.

Okay, that is info I hadn't heard. fair enough. Enough with the strawman. I'll presume you are catching up to the posts in the thread before addressing the main issue I raised.

[Ecthy]

Nitrogene asphyxiation has you pass out without noticing anything before dying. No pain, no conscious feel, no terror. You can gas him as he reads a book on painful and unusual punishment in his cell.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Nitrogene asphyxiation has you pass out without noticing anything before dying. No pain, no conscious feel, no terror. You can gas him as he reads a book on painful and unusual punishment in his cell.

But that's so boring.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Is it just me or am i actually reading a lot of should have, could have and would haves here? If so this should be taken back to the crime , if the guy wouldnt have killed the woman, the need for a lawyer to submit paperwork could have been avoided and then the state wouldnt have to kill him. Heres an why not act like most of society and not break the freaking law

[Wezil]

Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
Heres an why not act like most of society and not break the freaking law

I'm trying to get an answer to that Mrs. T. (Why the State didn't follow their own law). Best I've gotten was b/c someone suspects a lawyer was rude.

This of course doesn't pass the laugh test, but best answer provided so far.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Im not excatly sure the court broke the law for one, for another most would understand any court aint walmart it isnt open 24 hours a day. For the record, the lawyers should be the ones to blame its not like it hasnt been pointed out they had 19 previous years to get his sentence overturned, the likely hood of it happening in the next 20 minutes seems to have been a grasp at a very large straw, and a ploy on the lawyers to set up what snoop 369 stated, not to mention a lawsuit brought by his survivors.

The court systems, all of them, arent burger king, you dont get it your way all the time.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Wezil
the main issue I raised.

Whic is what? You have a lots of posts and questions in this thread.

[Wezil]

Judge Cheryl Johnson, the appeals court jurist in charge of Richard's case, said she heard nothing about the clerk's office closing off the appeal until the next day.

She said she understood that in a death penalty case, court officials remain at the office until the time of execution and accept filings until the execution is under way.

If this is true, there was no 5:00 deadline and no filing would be "late" until the execution. Why they couldn't make it until 5:20pm doesn't matter unless the execution happened at 5:00 (which I don't think it did).

Is Judge Cheryl Johnson wrong and if so, why are so many in agreement with her?

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by Wezil
[Why they couldn't make it until 5:20pm doesn't matter unless the execution happened at 5:00

They could have (until 6:PM*, not until the execution), but the Chief Justice didn't. The question is whether they had any legal obligation to do so, or whether is was an entirely discresionary matter to do so. It is discrethionary under state law, but the defense attoney's appear to be arguing the the discretion is limited by Due Process in the federal constitution. I can not say that I am a scholar on the issue, but that arguement looks like a loser to me. Remember that courts are deciding bodies, there are lots of matters they have choice over, like most of their internal procedure.


* The state court's jurisdiction, under Texas law, officialy ends a 6:PM on the execution day, when the execution process officaly begins, at the prisoners cell, when the warrant says he is to tranfered to the execution chamber.