Can we just THROW texas out of the union already?

[Wezil]

Come on Sloww. I know you can read.

Judge Cheryl Johnson, the appeals court jurist in charge of Richard's case, said she heard nothing about the clerk's office closing off the appeal until the next day.

She said she understood that in a death penalty case, court officials remain at the office until the time of execution and accept filings until the execution is under way.

The lot of you flippantly responded the deadline was past and essentially "thems the rules". I pointed out we weren't dealing with a parking ticket here and that a court filing extension when a man's life was at stake seemed reasonable. Now it appears the rules weren't followed in your quest to put a man in the ground.

So do the lot of you admit you were wrong?

[SlowwHand]

I know you can understand 20 years passing, but it comes down to the closing time on the day of execution?
Wez, that's horse****.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I know you can understand 20 years passing, but it comes down to the closing time on the day of execution?
Wez, that's horse****.

The SC had agreed to hear a case with a related issue that very morning. Yes, twenty years had passed prior to them deciding to hear this case. Was the condemned man to consult psychics to plan appeals ahead of time?

Your real issue, and I understand it, is that it takes too long from trial to execution. That may well be the case but the condemned man didn't design the system. He has available to him the rules set out. If you don't like the rules - change them, but you can't just ignore the rules you don't like and still claim justice was done at the end of the day.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Kidicious
Slowwy, do you call yourself a citizen of the Republic of Texas like they do on King of the Hill?

I call myself "A Citizen of Texas, and the Other, Lesser 49 States"

[SlowwHand]

Why wasn't a lawyer, legal aide, rented bum not at that office all day? Why was that office opened without someone there waiting, eating an Egg McMuffin and drinking coffee?
But let's blame clerks. Sad.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Wezil
Your real issue, and I understand it,

My issue is the seeming laziness and incompetence on the part of the lawyer that cost a man his life.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Why wasn't a lawyer, legal aide, rented bum not at that office all day? Why was that office opened without someone there waiting, eating an Egg McMuffin and drinking coffee?
But let's blame clerks. Sad.

My answer would apply to DD as well.

This is not the issue. Why the filing wasn't made by 5:00pm is not really relevent. The relevent issue was why was the filing not accepted up to the time of execution as the procedure/rules allow? I doubt it was the clerks fault actually. I'd look higher up the food chain for the decision not to stay to allow the filing.

[SlowwHand]

You're a lawyer, aren't you?

[Wezil]

That's another issue that's been bugging me.... Why are people coming down on this guys lawyer(s) for stretching it out this long? They are required to do everything they can within the bounds of ethics and the law to further their clients interests. NOT to do so would be unethical.

[SlowwHand]

Very true.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Wezil
That's another issue that's been bugging me.... Why are people coming down on this guys lawyer(s) for stretching it out this long?

I'm not. Well Ok. They drug it out a few hours too long and it cost thier client his life. I don't see any reason to apoligize for that.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
They drug it out a few hours too long and it cost thier client his life. I don't see any reason to apoligize for that.

Still sticking to that position are you? Despite the fact the deadline had not been reached....

[DinoDoc]

Until you can tell me why it isn't relevent to this discussion, yes I believe I will stick with that position.

[Wezil]

Originally posted by DinoDoc
Until you can tell me why it isn't relevent to this discussion, yes I believe I will stick with that position.

All right I will parse it for you. Open wide....

They drug it out

On what evidence? Your unfounded claim they were "lazy and incompentent"? Yep, they were probably searching for porn and completely forgot the execution was coming up. They've provided a reason why they didn't make the 5:00pm court closing time. In the absence of anything to substantiate your groundless accusations, I think I'll accept their version.

a few hours too long

Again, no. Filings are allowed up to the time of execution. He was not executed at 5pm DD. Understand? THEY WERE NOT LATE.

and it cost thier client his life.

"it" certainly did. The it was whomever prevented the filing despite the procedure allowing it.

I don't see any reason to apoligize for that.

Since you apparently don't understand the issue and are basing your opinion upon unfounded allegations, no I don't expect you would see a reason.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Wezil

They drug it out

On what evidence? Your unfounded claim they were "lazy and incompentent"? Yep, they were probably searching for porn and completely forgot the execution was coming up.

You said it. I didn't. I just assumed that they forgot how to write a motion since Zk and others have said it only takes a minimal amount of time.