Originally posted by Shrapnel12
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for that. You mistake me if you think I'm taking the side of Nazis. My point is that I simply think that there should be a greater burden of proof other then guilt by association. I admitted once already my ignorance of this situation and I'm trying to get you guys to give me valid information, but all I'm getting is blind hatred, even if justified. Some people want revenge for wrongs done and rightly so, but sometimes our desire for justice or revenge has collateral damage. Our thread author has a credibility problem because of the emotion in his posts.
I suggest you stop assuming I know everything of what you are talking about. Start by showing me that this Waffen SS is what you say. Just because a few people in a unit do bad things doesn't make the whole unit bad. Show me that this was not an ordinary military unit and made especially for the bad guys. This is the first time I've even heard of the Waffen SS. I only know of the SS and indeed they have a bad reputation, so you won't have a hard time convincing me. In fact, it's because these guys are so bad that I'm having a problem. Just like terroists in the ME will kill and force compliance from the general populace, I have to believe that some people in Germany were forced to do things they did in WWII. Nazis are at least as bad as Islamic jihadists.
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I suggest you stop assuming I know everything of what you are talking about. Start by showing me that this Waffen SS is what you say. Just because a few people in a unit do bad things doesn't make the whole unit bad. Show me that this was not an ordinary military unit and made especially for the bad guys. This is the first time I've even heard of the Waffen SS. I only know of the SS and indeed they have a bad reputation, so you won't have a hard time convincing me. In fact, it's because these guys are so bad that I'm having a problem. Just like terroists in the ME will kill and force compliance from the general populace, I have to believe that some people in Germany were forced to do things they did in WWII. Nazis are at least as bad as Islamic jihadists.
Unfortunately for your point, they are best known for saving allied POWs or civilians from fellow SS.
Then, on the opposite extreme, you have types like Erich von dem Bach-Zelewski.
In the middle are the "damn the rules of war, and, oh, let's kill a few POWs or civilians while we're at it" types like Witt, Peiper and Lammerding.
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