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    The Democratic Dark Side

    All the major Democratic candidates for president have signed a pledge promising they will only go to Florida or Michigan when they want to raise money.

    Among the really bad ideas in the history of the Democratic Party, this ranks somewhere between butterfly ballots and William Jennings Bryan.

    Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and Barack Obama have all vowed to honor the Democratic National Committee rule that only New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina and Nevada can hold primaries before Feb. 5. At the urging of the Democratic chairs of the four firsties, they signed a pact promising not to campaign in any state that tries to break into the front of the line. There is, however, an exception for “activities specifically related to raising campaign resources.”

    Florida has moved to Jan. 29, and Michigan to Jan. 15. Cue the Democratic Death Star.

    “Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina need to be first because in these states, ideas count, not just money,” said Edwards. He actually sent out a press release bragging that he had signed an agreement under which he can hang out with the fat cats at a Miami fund-raiser, but would presumably have to flee in the other direction if a group of regular citizens stopped him at the airport to ask for his views on health insurance.

    What were they thinking?

    “No comment,” said an Obama spokesman.

    “She thinks it was important to honor the normal procedure the Democratic National Committee set forth,” said a Clinton spokesman. We hope to see this sentiment on a banner at Hillary’s next Rally for Change.

    Ray Buckley, the chairman of New Hampshire’s Democratic Party, urged that all questions be directed to Carol Fowler, the chairwoman in South Carolina. “It was her idea,” he said.

    Fowler did not respond to a request for comment.

    * * * * *

    Let’s take a brief pause here to vent about Florida.

    In election years, Florida rules the universe. The major presidential candidates spend half their waking hours riding back and forth between Tampa and Daytona Beach. Because all politicians quiver in terror of Florida, we have a completely loony policy toward Cuba and ridiculously high sugar tariffs. And now, Florida has moved its presidential primary up because it feels that it has not been getting enough attention.

    There. I feel better.

    * * * * *

    The Florida primary was moved by the State Legislature, a body in which Democrats have about as much control over policy as Harry Reid does over Iraq. Nevertheless, the D.N.C. is planning to strip it of all its convention delegates, so whoever wins the primary will come away with — nothing. This is not the perfect way to woo a state that will probably come in handy down the line. Florida is also not the very best place to announce that when voters go to the polls, the Democratic Party has made sure that none of their votes will count.

    Meanwhile, the Republicans are snickering. Their leaders in New Hampshire, Iowa, etc., aren’t trying to get candidates to sign blood pacts about where they campaign. And while in theory, rebellious states could lose Republican delegates, too, nothing will happen until the convention next year when it will almost certainly be too late for anybody to care. Meanwhile, as Michael Luo reported in The Times, Florida Republicans are urging Democratic voters to change their registration so they can vote in a primary that really means something.

    All this is happening to protect a primary schedule that’s not worth saving. If Florida moves, the argument goes, the first four will move, too, and you’ll have the Iowa caucus in December instead of January. Big deal. Iowa in the winter is Iowa in the winter.

    Michigan Democrats, bent on undermining the tyranny of New Hampshire firstism, seem determined to march down the Florida path. “We are taking on the system!” said Debbie Dingell, a longtime party leader. As it stands now, Michigan will get the no-delegate treatment, and if a group of Detroit children invite Obama to their school, he’ll have to tell them that he needs to see a check first.

    In one reluctant concession, the Democratic chairs in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and that great American tradition, the Nevada caucus, are graciously allowing one exemption to the no-campaigning rule so the candidates can participate in a conference held in Dearborn by the Arab American Institute.

    Are you following all this? Here’s where we are so far:

    Florida:

    A) One man, no vote.

    B) No talking to any Floridians who are not waving checkbooks.

    Michigan: Both of the above, but Arab-Americans organized into a large conference are exempt.

    Really, the Democrats should give it up. The worst that can happen is that the states will keep jumping ahead. They’ll have to stop once the New Hampshire primary occurs immediately after the presidential inauguration.



    It's good to see the GOP stand up for the right of the voice of the people to be heard. I can only imagine the hypocrisy it took for the DNC to even contemplate this action. Though it is refreshing to see a party lay out what it values most bare for the entire world to see.
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    Pissing off the voters in a state that has cost them in the past just seems to be a wonderful strategy.

    The election should be a no brainer but I guess they want to make it a contest.
    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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    • #3
      Not a left or right thing, it just seems stupid to alienate the voters like that. Why does it seem like SOP for the Democratic party to self destruct everytime a presidential election comes up?
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      • #4
        I hate politics.

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        • #5
          I think that's why we all post here. We all hate politics and this forum provides a release for that incredible sense of frustration. It's all one big rant .
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          • #6

            It's good to see the GOP stand up for the right of the voice of the people to be heard. I can only imagine the hypocrisy it took for the DNC to even contemplate this action.


            Yes, because huge states leapfrogging over one another to get the earliest primary possible leads to such a fair process... A national primary would be preferable to the status quo, but a situation where various states end up voting tomorrow would be absurd.

            I'm not happy that the Democrats are taking the political hit to stop this insanity, but it had to be done.

            FYI, the GOP halved FL and MI delegates. Why does the GOP treat them like half a person? With all the arcane rules of the current system, the idea that there's anything close to one person, one vote is really dumb.
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            • #7
              While I think a national primary would be better, it causes considerable hardship on the candidates. With it spread out they can spend more time campaigning and if they find out they have no chance half way through they can stop spending money.
              It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
              RIP Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #8
                The problem is that you've got all sorts of fairness issues in deciding which states deserve more or less influence. FL has a legitimate beef in that there's no good reason why IA and NH deserve to coronate the nominees. The problem is that there's no good reason why FL should coronate the nominees either, and starting an avalanche for states to get the earliest date possible leads to a really ****ed up situation..
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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                • #9
                  I think that's why we all post here. We all hate politics and this forum provides a release for that incredible sense of frustration. It's all one big rant
                  That's not why I post here, but the rest of you go right ahead.


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                  • #10
                    “Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina need to be first because in these states, ideas count, not just money,” said Edwards.


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                    • #11
                      While reading the story, I could only think that the source of it was the onion. Then I saw the NYTimes URL.

                      Unbelievable! And people wonder how moronic Republicans can get elected...
                      Keep on Civin'
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ramo
                        starting an avalanche for states to get the earliest date possible leads to a really ****ed up situation..
                        That horse left the barn awhile ago, Ramo.
                        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                        • #13
                          If I understand the article correctly, the policy was already firmly in place when the Republican Legislature voted to advance the election date. Thus, it was not the Democrats who sought the disenfranchise Floridians at the Democratic Convention, but rather Republicans.

                          Florida Republicans depriving Democrats of their right to vote....gee, when has that ever happened before?

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                          • #14
                            I don't believe that it was the GOP that extracted a blood oath to flee from citizens not carrying checkbooks, Zk.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Zkribbler
                              If I understand the article correctly, the policy was already firmly in place when the Republican Legislature voted to advance the election date. Thus, it was not the Democrats who sought the disenfranchise Floridians at the Democratic Convention, but rather Republicans.


                              Read the story again... the Dems are the one that came up with this great solution...

                              Keep on Civin'
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