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  • Originally posted by Riesstiu IV View Post
    I wouldn't call the ending happy though...
    Well, not for the Indian chick. The only Indian in the show got killed in the last episode. Who survived to breed today's 1 billion Indians?
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    • Uhmm, humanity survived. They made it to a new home. They didn't die out or get nuked there. How's that not a happy ending?
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      • What a ****ty god. I'm pissed off that humanity and the machines they created can't get along so I'm going to commit mass genocide not once, not twice, but three times. **** that god.
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        • Originally posted by Solver View Post
          Uhmm, humanity survived. They made it to a new home. They didn't die out or get nuked there. How's that not a happy ending?
          Leave it to a Jew to see the bright side in a story about genocide.
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          • I have to admit, the first part of the show, the assault on the colony, was very, very intense. The resolution though, I was like, wha? Meh.

            What happened to Starbuck leading humanity to its destruction?
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            • Poor Lee, him getting the worst ending. He lost Starbuck and lost his father, two people he cared the most for. Quite a lonely end of life for him.
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              • I don't see anyone carrying any crop seeds so where exactly are these crops coming from?
                Naturally growing things on Earth if nothing else.


                And Lee got the best ending. He got Ninjaed!

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                • Originally posted by Solver View Post
                  This is sooo hard to react to!

                  The first part was pure awesomeness with many little great moments. The final moments for these characters were wonderful as well - some were happy endings, some were sad, top-class stuff. But I feel the the "angels" angle was a very cheap cop-out. I can see why Moore chose to make Starbuck a Messiah-like figure. But that's anti-climactic. After all the buildup to some revelation, that just doesn't work. I mean, what they said at the end of the show is, she had a destiny and was resurrected for it. But that's really the same that we already had at the start of the season. And while Starbuck jumping the ship was an amazing scene, seeing Earth appear didn't have the same kind of emotional impact like the first time they found Earth, the "original" one.

                  And so the virtual Six and virtual Baltar are just messengers from God. Which isn't even explicitly said. We've known for a few episodes that Baltar is the only human to see these - other than him, they've only appeared to Cylons. Not that it was very bad, but that had more potential.

                  The message at the end was kinda interesting... but a happy ending for Battlestar? Really? That's probably the most unexpected thing!
                  This is pretty much how I felt about the final too. The first half was exciting and good. As for the second half, I didn't like the huge dues ex machina they used to explain all the mysteries of the show, but I did like the ending of most of the characters (except for Lee and Kara's), and Adama's and Baltar's endings were espically satisfying.
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                  • Poor Lee hadn't gotten any poon since his wife left him in season 3 and now all he can get is some primitive ape chick.
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                    • It's not really a deus ex machina. God, his plan and all that has been in the show since the beginning. So it's not really like they pulled something new to explain the mysteries... but it just wasn't that satisfying.

                      On the other hand, it's hard to imagine just what they could have done. I really can't imagine a satisfying explanation for Starbuck... any mojo with time travel would be horrible, and any physical appearance of a god would also be horrible. It's just a shame that they left the whole harbinger of death thing hanging, Starbuck led them all to a happy new home, not to destruction in any sense.
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                      • Originally posted by Oerdin View Post
                        Poor Lee hadn't gotten any poon since his wife left him in season 3 and now all he can get is some primitive ape chick.
                        Homo sapiens sapiens isn't an ape, dumbass.
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                        • Homo sapiens is a Cylon descendant anyway
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                          • No, Homo sapiens idaltu isn't. Homo sapiens sapiens emerged 200,000 years ago, so those people walking around with spears (who almost certainly had language by that point) weren't apes. All existing Homo sapiens sapiens are descended from Cylons.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • Didn't have language, they said so in the episode. Those guys could have been neanderthals for all you know, though I guess this point has little relevance.
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                              • Since Baltar hadn't talked to them, how would he know? Neanderthal emerged outside of Africa and they may have had language also (they had the physical capacity for speach). Our species has an innate capacity for language, so it's almost certain we've had language since before our subspecies emerged.
                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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