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  • Agathon claimed those were misinterpreted. It is nice to have as much evidence as possible of his lunacy on record so these dumb arguments can be shot down.

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    • DO NOT YOU DARE. I am amazed you compare the United States (which sponsors a country devoted to bombing Palestinans in markets) to Iran supporting Hizbollah to fight Israeli occupation forces and invaders, or Islamic Jihad in defense of Israel's brazen attacks upon civilians, torture of prisoners, and illegal land grabbing, or Palestinians fighting a dictatorial regime that occupies their land and denies them civil rights. The rest is old history, and we are debating current state of affairs.

      Iran does not harbor anything like al Quaeda [SP.]

      The United States might not have caused World War II but they cause similar attacks, so understandably people don't want them visiting the World War II grave sites.

      This is too easy, Wiglaf.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • Originally posted by Agathon
        Iran does not harbor anything like al Quaeda [SP.]
        They are doing so as we speak. Would you like a list?
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
        For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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        • DO NOT YOU DARE.......Israeli occupation forces and invaders, or Islamic Jihad in defense of Israel's brazen attacks upon civilians, torture of prisoners, and illegal land grabbing, or Palestinians fighting a dictatorial regime that occupies their land and denies them civil rights. The rest is old history, and we are debating current state of affairs.

          Iran does not harbor anything like al Quaeda [SP.]

          The United States might not have caused World War II but they cause similar attacks, so understandably people don't want them visiting the World War II grave sites.
          I would have preferred you correct my minor grammatical mistakes but that is neither here nor there I suppose.

          Also Iran according to 9/11 commission harbors al Quaida operatives. Please check that link I provided from Washington Post as well as your facts.

          Also, Israel is not "dedicated" to bombing civilians; its bombings are in response to organizations formed exclusively to attack Israel.

          Also, Iran harbors people who are part of an organization that was behind 9/11.

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          • Detaining != "Harboring"
            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
            -Bokonon

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            • Originally posted by DinoDoc
              I already tried to have a discussion with Aggie about his contention that the Iranian government is a great ally of the US after 9/11 and got met with Slaughtermeyer rehetoric. Why should anyone else try having a serious discussion with him on that topic when that particular line is crossed?
              Where was that? I don't recall ever having a discussion with you.
              Only feebs vote.

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              • Originally posted by Ramo
                Detaining != "Harboring"
                I really dont want to enter this debate, but there is some real questions about the circumstances of their detention. Though theres no PROOF that they are using those circumstances to coordinate with AQ elsewhere, and understandably people dont anything less than high levels of proof from this administration. One very good reason to elect a Dem Prez, BTW.
                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                • Originally posted by Ramo
                  Detaining != "Harboring"
                  Given the previous attempt to form a collaberative relationship with the organization by the Iranian government, I'd think even you would have to question how "detained" they really are.
                  I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                  For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                  • Originally posted by Wiglaf

                    I would have preferred you correct my minor grammatical mistakes but that is neither here nor there I suppose.
                    I wanted to preserve your style. Having correct spelling and grammar would have defeated the purpose.

                    Also Iran according to 9/11 commission harbors al Quaida operatives. Please check that link I provided from Washington Post as well as your facts.
                    So because the 9/11 Commission says it, it must therefore be true. Hell, the official US line was that Saddam had WMD's. We apparently "knew where they were".

                    Also, Hizbollah is not "dedicated" to bombing civilians; its bombings are in response to Israel occupying Arab land, defying international law and denying Arabs their civil rights.

                    Also, Iran harbors people who are part of an organization that was behind 9/11
                    Again, this is no doubt according to your idiot government, who have proven that they'll say anything to further their aims. edit: Is Ramo right? Are they in jail? Hell, then the US is "harbouring" Al Qaeda terrorists at Gtmo.
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      That's what his speeches at the UN are for.


                      QF(sad)T
                      "I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
                      "I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark Twain

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                      • Given the previous attempt to form a collaberative relationship with the organization by the Iranian government, I'd think even you would have to question how "detained" they really are.


                        What "attempt"? And given how frequently Karzai praises Iran, not really...
                        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                        -Bokonon

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                        • Originally posted by Ramo
                          Given the previous attempt to form a collaberative relationship with the organization by the Iranian government, I'd think even you would have to question how "detained" they really are.


                          What "attempt"? And given how frequently Karzai praises Iran, not really...
                          given the byzantine complexities of Afghan politics, id be hard pressed to see that as evidence of anything.
                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • So because the 9/11 Commission says it, it must therefore be true. Hell, the official US line was that Saddam had WMD's. We apparently "knew where they were".

                            Also, Hizbollah is not "dedicated" to bombing civilians; its bombings are in response to Israel occupying Arab land, defying international law and denying Arabs their civil rights.

                            ...

                            Again, this is no doubt according to your idiot government, who have proven that they'll say anything to further their aims. edit: Is Ramo right? Are they in jail? Hell, then the US is "harbouring" Al Qaeda terrorists at Gtmo.
                            It is hard to argue with you. I guess you are right about what you are saying with a few exceptions, namely that the US' motivations are nobler than Al Quaida's. [SP for the last time.]

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                            • Originally posted by Agathon

                              Is Ramo right? Are they in jail?
                              They are under house arrest, IIUC.
                              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                              • Originally posted by Agathon
                                its bombings are in response to Israel occupying Arab land,
                                shabaa farms allegedly.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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