Iran leader denied WTC wreath request

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Agathon


IIRC they are defunct in Iran due to being made illegal. I don't know whether they are still a functional party within Iran.

cause Communists are never able to function underground when theyve been made illegal? How effective a totalitarian state do you really think Iran is?

[Wezil]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


Try googling it.

I already did.

Come on Lotm, you know I like to joke.

[lord of the mark]

here is their website.

http://www.tudehpartyiran.org/english.htm

here are some of their statements.

http://www.tudehpartyiran.org/TN246-August2007.pdf

I encourage all to read this.

[Agathon]

Wiglaf, you are a sad apologist.

The United States is a state sponsor of terror (MEK, various Kurdish groups, Al Qaeda, various Latin American groups of nutbags). American agents are in Iraq and the American government shields terror suspects from other countries like Venezuela and Cuba, some of whom various independent bodies have found may have had roles in terrorist attacks. The United States is even now harboring militants such as Carriles (so shoot me if I cannot spell it still).

So you can understand why 9/11 families don't want this guy pissing on their relatives' graves, or if not you are soullless and insane.

Except they had nothing to do with 9/11.

[SlowwHand]

Terrorists hide out in Iran. Your point is lost.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by lord of the mark

cause Communists are never able to function underground when theyve been made illegal? How effective a totalitarian state do you really think Iran is?

And what's your point here? That ADJ likes them? AFAIK they are irrelevant these days, as I said in my post.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Terrorists hide out in Iran. Your point is lost.

Terrorists hide out in the US.

The US invades other countries for spurious reasons to further its own imperialist agenda.

Your point is lost.

[Wiglaf]

DO NOT YOU DARE. I am amazed you compare Iran (which sponsors organizations devoted to bombing Israelis in markets) to the US supporting bin Laden to fight communist occupation forces, or Kurds in defense of Saddam's brazen chemical attacks, or Cubans fighting a dictator. The rest is old history, and we are debating current state of affairs.

The US does not harbor anything like al Quaeda [SP.]

Iran might not have caused 9/11 but they cause similar attacks, so understandably people don't want them visiting the 9/11 site.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Agathon


And what's your point here? That ADJ likes them? AFAIK they are irrelevant these days, as I said in my post.

my point is that youre silly to assume theyre insignificant cause theyre banned.

He dont like them, and they dont like him. They may well become very relevant. Again I recommend you read their own documents on the situation in Iran.

[Arrian]

edit: major crosspost. Response to Slowwy:

His point is nuanced, which is lost on you, yes.

I don't necessarily agree with Aggie, but "terrorists hide out in Iran" is not some sort of Q.E.D., end-of-discussion statement.

-Arrian

[DinoDoc]

Can we all at least agree that Bollinger was a moron to have even invited Straightjacket to speak?

[Wiglaf]

It was worth it, now we know how insane he really is, and apologists like Agathon can see his lunacy firsthand. He denies gays exist in his country and he thinks the US is behind 9/11. Oh, he also wants Israel wiped off the map, but that was a Western media distortion, right?

[Arrian]

Sure. Having done so, however, he ****ed up a second time by the way he handled the visit.

-Arrian

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Arrian
I don't necessarily agree with Aggie, but "terrorists hide out in Iran" is not some sort of Q.E.D., end-of-discussion statement.

I already tried to have a discussion with Aggie about his contention that the Iranian government is a great ally of the US after 9/11 and got met with Slaughtermeyer rehetoric. Why should anyone else try having a serious discussion with him on that topic when that particular line is crossed?

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by Wiglaf
It was worth it, now we know how insane he really is,

That's what his speeches at the UN are for.