Ah well, hindsight...
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Was Saddam the head of a representative government after all?
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Judging history is kind of, well, chicken****.
You know the outcome. Dealing with the now with the facts at hand is a crap shoot.
The only automatically wrong decision is no decision.
Did someone say Clinton? They could.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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Originally posted by Lancer
Post 9/11, MtG is the pres, what happens?
Use 10MD (full force) to secure Ghazny-Khost-Parachinar area and XVIII Airborne Corps forces to control Khyber Pass/Tora Bora/general SE border area, plus the two plains areas around Kandahar and Ghazny, to block escape routes to and resupply/reinforcement from Paki tribal areas. That gives you the anvil.
Lighten other infantry elements plus use 25ID(L) and detached aviation elements plus SOF from NA and EA positions as the hammer.
Throw relative ****loads of money at nationbuilding plus development of central government and etc. Probably still use Karzai (not really a better alternative), pay off warlords to sit on their asses except the initial NA and EA forces in place at the outset.
Get Karzai to do the loya jirga process and tell all the tribal types we have no desire to stick around, but there's a few people whose heads we need for the next easter egg hunt on the White House lawn, and meanwhile, can we fix a few broken things like your economy and infrastructure and give you baubles (sorry, no firepower) to keep you happy while we do a little headhunting.
Wrt Iraq, **** 'em - keep sanctions in place, let the status quo be the status quo unless we see some real evidence of a real threat.
Meanwhile, increase army size, airlift capacity, etc. and expand various MOS and specialist areas, particularly relevant language specialists.
Get into Afghanistan faster (and obviously far heavier from what I described above) and work intel/diplo angles with rest of ME. See how above plays out over fall/winter and make adjustments as necessary.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
Judging history is kind of, well, chicken****.
You know the outcome. Dealing with the now with the facts at hand is a crap shoot.
The only automatically wrong decision is no decision.
Did someone say Clinton? They could.
Clinton shares a good chunk of the blame (most of the 19 *******s got into this country on his watch), but it wasn't until very close to 9/11 that anyone anywhere really considered that maybe OBL would escalate to anything like that degree.
I don't think Bush can be seriously faulted for the failures leading up to 9/11. They still have to be looked at, (fix the problem, not the blame), but the facts are that OBL and AAZ got away, and whether we whacked the **** out of the central AQ organization or not, the end result is that the continued non-martyrdom of OBL and AAZ is a propaganda point they exploit, and the result of whacking the centralized apparatus is a probably a whole bunch of semi-autonomous decentralized operators. Can't fault Bush for the latter, either, it's an inevitable evolution of doctrine as we kill portions of the senior leadership. Their tactics and doctrine evolve, so must ours.When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Originally posted by Lancer
That sounds good.
How about buddying up to Saddam and going after Iran together?I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Originally posted by Lancer
That sounds good.
How about buddying up to Saddam and going after Iran together?When all else fails, blame brown people. | Hire a teen, while they still know it all. | Trump-Palin 2016. "You're fired." "I quit."
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Originally posted by SlowwHand
U.N. pissed on their own shoes by not taking Hussein out. So make what you think are jokes."I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
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The Iraqi army was giving up in numbers that taxed the system. We blew it, via the U.N.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead
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