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Venezuelian Aggressor Only Changes 10% Of The Constitution!
Originally posted by Kidicious
I don't think putting a limit on how long a leader should hold office in a crisis is a smart thing.
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I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio
I'm the Yankee fan. Imran is a Mets fan. I dunno if Kid cares about baseball.
I'm too young to get your cultural reference, sorry.
-Arrian
Met fan, did you say Met fan!
"My beer, is Rheingold, the dry beer
Think of Rheingold, whenever you buy beer
Its refreshing, not sweet
Its the extra dry treat
Wont you try, extra dry Rheingold beer!"
Back in the golden days, when men were men, women were women, and playgrounds were deathtraps, every baseball teams had a beer company sponsor. With TV ads on the local games. As this was back when there were still local brewers (and not microbrews, REAL local brewers) there were local sponsors in every town. NY, privileged to have two teams, also had at least two local brewers. Shaefer ads were on Yankee games, and Rheingold ads on Met games. I was too young to even grasp the appeal of beer, but I did memorize the jingles.
Rheingold jingles, Tom Seaver strikeouts, Cleon Jones hits. It all goes together.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
Because that would actually be democratic and in keeping with their constitution? If Chavez is so great and doing so many things that so many people love, surely someone molded in his image (one of his top ministers, perhaps?) would have no trouble winning an election after his term is up.
Though I realize this is all a pointless argument with you. You've made it pretty clear that you favor forced communism that everyone will eventually learn to love - or be killed, whichever is more expedient for communists.
If we all kept with our constitutions I don't really think that would be called democratic. Think about how our societies would function. This reasoning can be applied here. Not allowing Chavez to run again is not the democratic thing to do because the people there want him to remain as their leader.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
Originally posted by Kidicious
Excuss me mister history but WWII started in FDRs second term.
Well, Mr. reading comprehension he said the US's direct involvement in WW2.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
It's up to Venezuelan voters to decide if they like his ideas. If they don't go for it, then see what happens.
Calling this anti-democratic is insane, since the article says there will be a referendum.
That's like saying a referendum allowing GW Bush to become President for life isn't anti-democratic, since people are going to vote on it. In the modern era, democracy isn't merely voting, but the tenants of 'liberal democracy' which include far more.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)
What crisis, exactly, is Venezuela going through right now?
Are they at war? No.
Yes they are. You don't see it because you aren't a Socialist.
Are they in the midst of a terrible depression? No - they're not a rich country, to be sure, but according to you, because of Chavez, things are going great!
The trouble with the concept of sticking with a leader through a crisis is that depending on how you define a crisis, countries are always facing them. Or they can be cooked up pretty easily.
-Arrian
By every sense of the word the economy of Venezuela was in a depression in 1998. The people in Venezuela aren't all doing well yet, not by a long shot, and they still have very dangerous enemies.
I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
- Justice Brett Kavanaugh
It's up to Venezuelan voters to decide if they like his ideas. If they don't go for it, then see what happens.
Calling this anti-democratic is insane, since the article says there will be a referendum.
I believe Bonaparte came up with the idea of using referendums for democratic legitimacy.
1. A referendum presented up and down, by the govt, is generally less subject to real competition (cause the only option is no, not real discussion) than a multiparty election
2. OTOH, if its NOT manipulated, and the press is fair, its more democratic than a real authoritarian state. Sometimes its an appropriate method.
3. Press freedom in venezuala is a hot button issue. While the press has in the past supported "the old regime" the current suppression of press freedom compromises the legitimacy of even an otherwise non-coerced referendum.
De Gaulle also used the referendum extensively, as has the US supported govt in Iraq. Abbas may well use a referendum to justify his new post-Hamas govt. I wonder if we are all, on both sides, going to be consistent in our view of referenda? (and note, I mean for dramatic constitutional changes, not "should we approve a school bond issue?")
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
That's like saying a referendum allowing GW Bush to become President for life isn't anti-democratic, since people are going to vote on it. In the modern era, democracy isn't merely voting, but the tenants of 'liberal democracy' which include far more.
tenets of liberal democracy.
The tenants of liberal democracy, they are fighting hard to keep rent control.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
No. First term = 1933-1937. Second term 1937-1941.
Pearl Harbor = December 7, 1941... after the start of the third term.
Now I agree that WWII started in Asia earlier and Europe in 1939. And that the US wasn't completely removed from that (Lend Lease, etc). But the fact is we weren't a combatant until term #3.
"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber
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