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  • Originally posted by lord of the mark
    re coffee.


    1. "Coffee shop" coffee in general, is marginally better than coffee made in generic diners, etc, over here. Generally not better enough for me to pay a premium for it, but that reflects my own income level and preferences. For someone with a high enough income, it could well be different.

    2. Lattes, espressos, etc are a different product. They are more labor intensive, and naturally more expensive. Occasionally I get one.

    3. The above are generally better and cheaper at a good mom n pop espresso place than at Starbucks. However Starbucks is more widely available, and more reliable.

    4. Coffee shops in general, provide more than just coffee, they provide a community hang out, with free papers, easy chairs, etc. In many places Starbucks in particular provides the only such one for some distance.

    5. I dont count on a skim Latte by itself to provide happiness. I prefer living in a world with an occasional skim latte available to one where its not.

    6. Those who lack info to adequately compare Starbucks to their local Java house, are probably better off in a world with free coffee markets than if, say, Starbucks were banned.

    7. Im not sure exactly what in Starbucks ads is so misleading that it could reasonably be regulated. Without generating a govt bureucracy that is A. Too vast and costly and B. Too intrusive.
    Completely agreed. Starbucks is good for the coffee drinks: the lattes, the mochiattos, etc. And you generally don't find them every place that you can find regular coffee.

    In addition they are selling the coffeehouse atmosphere as well. Which nice chairs, comfy couches, free papers that you can just lounge around and hang out.
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    • Just when you think Imran can't sell out any further...
      Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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      • I can't believe anyone is seriously suggesting regulating Starbucks. I personally choose to drink there rarely, but it's a choice. Other people are free to make their own choice.

        I work as an economic adviser to the British govt, and there is no sane argument for regulation in this context.
        Last edited by DrSpike; July 16, 2007, 18:34.

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        • Originally posted by Arrian

          I ****ing hate ads. Not that I can't see through them, mind you.

          -Arrian
          See throughs would make ads with babes much more interesting, but I don't think the family values crowd would go for that.
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          • Originally posted by DrSpike
            I can't believe anyone is seriously suggesting regulating Starbucks.
            It's only the commie, and we know commies are whack
            THEY!!111 OMG WTF LOL LET DA NOMADS AND TEH S3D3NTARY PEOPLA BOTH MAEK BITER AXP3REINCES
            AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
            AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
            DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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            • "The only good commie is a dead commie"

              Who said that again?
              Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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              • Originally posted by Agathon
                The current optimal method of organizing a society is the Nordic model.
                50% tax - Yay!!

                I dunno....

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                • Originally posted by Agathon
                  The current optimal method of organizing a society is the Nordic model.
                  Have a lot of oil?

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                  • Originally posted by lord of the mark

                    Not necessarily. Theres a whole subfield of information economics that drops the assumptions of perfect information. There are studies of optimal search theory, etc. Hell, there were 30 years ago. The question is, will any given intervention make more sense under imperfect information. What is the most efficent mechanism for processing that information.
                    There are lots of sophistical and pointless subfields of every discipline. The original argument is basically an a priori piece of reasoning, so you'd probably have to change the terms to get anything going.
                    Only feebs vote.

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                    • Originally posted by DrSpike
                      I can't believe anyone is seriously suggesting regulating Starbucks. I personally choose to drink there rarely, but it's a choice. Other people are free to make their own choice.
                      Who said Starbucks was to be regulated.

                      I work as an economic adviser to the British govt, and there is no sane argument for regulation in this context.


                      Why not simply write: "I am a hapless, incompetent fool who works with other hapless, incompetent fools to grind Britain down"?
                      Only feebs vote.

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                      • Originally posted by Agathon
                        There are lots of sophistical and pointless subfields of every discipline.
                        Not math

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                        • Originally posted by Agathon


                          Who said Starbucks was to be regulated.





                          Why not simply write: "I am a hapless, incompetent fool who works with other hapless, incompetent fools to grind Britain down"?
                          You haven't changed a bit
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                          • Originally posted by Traianvs


                            You haven't changed a bit
                            Come on. That one is true.

                            Britain is without doubt the most incompetent country in the world.

                            Have you ever tried to book a train ticket there? Or get served in a shop? Or get a bank to help you?
                            Only feebs vote.

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                            • We just don't like commies...
                              Is it me, or is MOBIUS a horrible person?

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                              • Originally posted by Agathon
                                Britain is without doubt the most incompetent country in the world.
                                :sigh:

                                It's just like Asher had never left ....

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