Originally posted by lord of the mark
re coffee.
1. "Coffee shop" coffee in general, is marginally better than coffee made in generic diners, etc, over here. Generally not better enough for me to pay a premium for it, but that reflects my own income level and preferences. For someone with a high enough income, it could well be different.
2. Lattes, espressos, etc are a different product. They are more labor intensive, and naturally more expensive. Occasionally I get one.
3. The above are generally better and cheaper at a good mom n pop espresso place than at Starbucks. However Starbucks is more widely available, and more reliable.
4. Coffee shops in general, provide more than just coffee, they provide a community hang out, with free papers, easy chairs, etc. In many places Starbucks in particular provides the only such one for some distance.
5. I dont count on a skim Latte by itself to provide happiness. I prefer living in a world with an occasional skim latte available to one where its not.
6. Those who lack info to adequately compare Starbucks to their local Java house, are probably better off in a world with free coffee markets than if, say, Starbucks were banned.
7. Im not sure exactly what in Starbucks ads is so misleading that it could reasonably be regulated. Without generating a govt bureucracy that is A. Too vast and costly and B. Too intrusive.
re coffee.
1. "Coffee shop" coffee in general, is marginally better than coffee made in generic diners, etc, over here. Generally not better enough for me to pay a premium for it, but that reflects my own income level and preferences. For someone with a high enough income, it could well be different.
2. Lattes, espressos, etc are a different product. They are more labor intensive, and naturally more expensive. Occasionally I get one.
3. The above are generally better and cheaper at a good mom n pop espresso place than at Starbucks. However Starbucks is more widely available, and more reliable.
4. Coffee shops in general, provide more than just coffee, they provide a community hang out, with free papers, easy chairs, etc. In many places Starbucks in particular provides the only such one for some distance.
5. I dont count on a skim Latte by itself to provide happiness. I prefer living in a world with an occasional skim latte available to one where its not.
6. Those who lack info to adequately compare Starbucks to their local Java house, are probably better off in a world with free coffee markets than if, say, Starbucks were banned.
7. Im not sure exactly what in Starbucks ads is so misleading that it could reasonably be regulated. Without generating a govt bureucracy that is A. Too vast and costly and B. Too intrusive.
In addition they are selling the coffeehouse atmosphere as well. Which nice chairs, comfy couches, free papers that you can just lounge around and hang out.
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