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  • #61
    Originally posted by Oerdin
    The stated goals were to 1) make it harder for illegals to find jobs in the US ... The bill would have accomplished those goals.
    I and many others didn't believe you.
    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Kuciwalker
      Oh I believe you. I'm just amused you worded it "decided we were engaging in personal attacks" instead of "recognized the obvious."
      I don't speak for Ming. He told me the personal attacks had to end and that similiar PMs were sent to the other parties.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by DinoDoc
        I and many others didn't believe you.
        And you base that on...?
        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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        • #64
          He lied to you.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Oerdin
            And you base that on...?
            1986
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • #66
              I didn't lie... personal attacks will stop... or some posters won't be posting much longer.

              Now get back on topic
              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #67
                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                1986
                1986 didn't do anything for increasing how the law was enforced. No national data base was created so employers could varify if documents were falsified or real; no improved IDs were created. It was entirely different then the proposed bill.

                You know this though; you just keep repeating the same false claims like a broken record.
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by SlowwHand
                  Here's what I think. Seal the borders, give the guards authorization to fire at whomever starts across.
                  At the same time, those who are in, can stay in; provided they declare themselves and are given an identification card like any other person.
                  I don't know about California, but in Texas an i.d. is required, either a driver's license or other.
                  What you're not understanding is everyone uses fake documents now days and the employers know the documents are fake but the police have to prove it which is almost impossible since there is no independent way of verifying that documents are real. The new data base would have made it the employers responsibility to check documents against the data base so if an illegal was found working for them they couldn't claim they didn't know. That's now out the window.
                  Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                  • #69
                    I would rather businesses hire illegals than not hire anyone.

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                    • #70
                      The real goal of the bill was to further alienate the GOP from Hispanics. It has been immensely successful. Shame that they're gonna vote Democrat though.
                      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Barnabas
                        How many immigrants does the USA need per year?
                        It depends on what you mean by need. To prevent population from falling due to people that leave the country every year? about 150K/Year.

                        Dirt poor people aren't going to move to America in the tens of millions once there are no more jobs left for them to take. Don't overstate the problems with open borders.
                        There are no such thing as "no more jobs", they'll simply have to work for a lower wage then the guy who came in ahead of them.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Kuciwalker
                          I would rather businesses hire illegals than not hire anyone.

                          Why would you say something so odd?
                          No, it's not meant as a rhetorical question. You wish.
                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                          "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Oerdin
                            1986 didn't do anything for increasing how the law was enforced.
                            Have you even read the act, Oerdin? Or even the history surrounding it? Amnesty (which is similar to what was proposed today) was passed with the promise of enforcement to be paired with it (and yes there are provisions for the ID improvements you were speaking of earlier in the '86 bill) but there wasn't the political will to follow through on it.
                            I would rather businesses hire illegals than not hire anyone.
                            I would rather they not hire anyone rather than resort to slavery.
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #74
                              There are no such thing as "no more jobs", they'll simply have to work for a lower wage then the guy who came in ahead of them.


                              Immigrants who came in through open borders would work for the minimum wage or higher. Since their entry into the US wasn't illegal, there's no reason for them not to report employers who try to break the minimum wage law.
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                              • #75
                                The reason for them to not report the employer would be the whole no job and have to go back home thing.

                                If we were going to do this we'd have to emulate your home country, and make it impossible to fire workers.

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