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Originally posted by Heresson
The New Testament claims otherwise and there are no other sources about it, right?
The New Testament claims otherwise and there are no other sources about it, right?
It's quite clear from Matthew who is to be blamed:
Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
Judicial execution by Jewish civil authorities would have entailed beheading with an axe, strangulation or burning.
This assumes of course that a Roman official would have allowed Jewish religious (or civil) authorities to execute a Roman citizen. Unlikely, I think you'll find.
Pilate we also know about from non-Biblical sources- which disagree with the somewhat sympathetic portrayal of a weak and vacillating man (basically good at heart) who is swayed by a braying deicidal Jewish mob.
Josephus has Pilate killing Jews:
"On a later occasion he provoked a fresh uproar by expending upon the construction of an aqueduct the sacred treasure known as Corbonas; the water was brought from a distance (of seventy kilometres). Indignant at this proceeding, the populace formed a ring round the tribunal of Pilate, then on a visit to Jerusalem, and besieged him with angry clamour.
He, foreseeing the tumult, had interspersed among the crowd a troop of his soldiers, armed but disguised in civilian dress, with orders not to use their swords, but to beat any rioters with cudgels. He now from his tribunal gave the agreed signal.
Large numbers of the Jews perished, some from the blows which they received, others trodden to death by their companions in the ensuing flight. Cowed by the fate of the victims, the multitude was reduced to silence.
I don't think catholics are more anti-jewish than protestants;.
Denmark, not notably Catholic and bordering on Nazi Germany, managed to save the majority of its Jewish population.
Then of course Catholic organisations were only too happy to shield Vichy French collaborationists and murderers of Jews and people in the Vatican were complicit in helping members of the Ustasha and fleeing Nazis escape to South America and evade justice.
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