The worst casualty of the missionary activity in India.....

[MRT144]

Originally posted by aneeshm


Weren't you the one who acted in pornographic material? I would be careful of how I use the word "suck" if I were you.

its because of the porn that i can use the word suck so freely.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by aneeshm


Isn't the fact that the Congress has tried to ban the RSS thrice, that the current prime Minister (who is of the Congress party, which is currently ruling at the centre) has tried to appease the Muslims by saying that "they have a first right on (the nation's) resources", that they even went to the extent of removing a plaque commemorating Veer Savarkar in the Andaman and Nicobar Jail, that the protested when the BJP sought to install a statue of Savarkar in Parliament, enough indication that they the very antithesis of any reasonable definition of Hindu nationalists?

Fair enough. That doesn't mean the law wasn't about political power. It just might edit: NOT be aimed to benifit Hindu nationalist political power

The law is a bad one, any way you slice it.

-Arrian

[aneeshm]

Originally posted by Arrian
The next article down from that one, from aneeshm's link:

I didn't read past the first article, actually. Thanks for bringing this gem to my attention.

[Arrian]

The google search for christian missionaries kidnapping hindu children is not going well. The only hit that seems to match at all is from hindudharma.wordpress.com, which I'm sorry to say I will not accept as a proper source.

There also are Christian sources (also not acceptable) babbling about kidnappings of their people.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Originally posted by aneeshm





I didn't read past the first article, actually. Thanks for bringing this gem to my attention.

Don't forget to soak up the wisdom of Henry Ford

...

I think it's pretty clear you need to take anything you get from that site with a grain of salt, my friend.

-Arrian

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by aneeshm

A law which bans conversion by force or fraud or bribery is a disgrace to a civilised nation? What definition of civilisation are you using, exactly?

you might be a lot of things, but you're not stupid. the purpose of these laws are plain and obvious.

maybe next you'll try and argue that 'literacy requirements' in the southern US were about ensuring an educated electorate, rather than keeping down minorities.

[aneeshm]

Which approach do you prefer the Hindus adopt, out of the following two?

a) Stop fraudulent conversion by legislative means, or
b) The "sau sunar ki, ek luhaar ki" policy, best exemplified by the Shabri Kumbh (in one massive stroke, 80% of the population in the Dangs was re-converted from Christianity to Hinduism).

[snoopy369]

I like how the Ferengis came into this discussion (OP mentions a word for foreigner that sounds remarkably like it)...

[snoopy369]

Originally posted by aneeshm
Which approach do you prefer the Hindus adopt, out of the following two?

a) Stop fraudulent conversion by legislative means, or
b) The "sau sunar ki, ek luhaar ki" policy, best exemplified by the Shabri Kumbh (in one massive stroke, 80% of the population in the Dangs was re-converted from Christianity to Hinduism).

Neither.

You can prevent "fraudulent conversions" by preventing fraud, the same way any other country handles it. You can prevent forced conversions by preventing the use of force.

But ultimately you must accept and understand the following:

The thing that you are suggesting the state prevent is the exact thing you are suggesting the state use to stop it.

You are suggesting the state intervene by force to prevent conversions by force or by fraud by other quasigovernmental organizations (religious groups). How is that in any way different? Answer: it's not. Until and unless the state can prove itself to be completely fair, equitable, and unbiased in its application of force - and there is no government on the face of this earth that can claim that - the state has no more right to use force (in this case, law) to regulate someone's religious practices [unless it is a religious state formed by a religious group for the purposes of practicing their religion, in which case I have no objection].

[TheStinger]

How does one convert fraudulently,

If i wan to tkae money to prestend to be another religion thats my choice

[_BuRjaCi_]

The proper response to this thread is:
/The Indians? They worship monkeys! Lolz!!!/

Copy and paste to your delight.

[C0ckney]

Originally posted by TheStinger
How does one convert fraudulently,

one doesn't.

but if one is a hindu nationalist apologist, then one uses loaded words like "fraudulent" (fraud is bad, how could anyone be against something which stops it!), to justify laws which aim to persecute and make life difficult for religious minorities.

[Sandman]

What I am truly saddened by is that the nice balance Christianity had found within India, in the form of the Syrian Christians, who were nicely integrated for over eighteen hundred years, was shattered by the coming of the imperialist Christians, and is still being destroyed by these vile missionaries.

Yes, we've noticed your love of small, weak sects that don't threaten Hinduism.

[Ben Kenobi]

It's an interesting question.

I'm surprised aneeshm that you managed to bring up a discussion of the first Catholic church in India without even mentioning the Nestorians.

Have a look around with that term. Lots of interesting stuff I learned about the topic of Christianity in India.

[Colonâ„¢]

Are you going to argue with Aneeshm?