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  • #61
    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barack Hussein Obama

    Originally posted by Ned
    Barak Hussein Obama is an Arabic name, a name associated with Islam. People would get upset with the NAME because of the War on Terror, not because it is associated with any particular race. But your suggestion that Americans would get upset with the name because of racism implies that Americans are fighting the War on Terror because of race and not because the terrorists are Islamic radicals. That is, of course, utter nonsense.
    Why would someone get upset over a name because of the war on terror?
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    AND TEH GRAAT SINS OF THERE [DOCTRINAL] INOVATIONS BQU3ATH3D SMAL
    AND!!1!11!!! LOL JUST IN CAES A DISPUTANT CALS U 2 DISPUT3 ABOUT THEYRE CLAMES
    DO NOT THAN DISPUT3 ON THEM 3XCAPT BY WAY OF AN 3XTARNAL DISPUTA!!!!11!! WTF

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    • #62
      Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barack Hussein Obama

      Originally posted by Ned


      Barak Hussein Obama is an Arabic name, a name associated with Islam. People would get upset with the NAME because of the War on Terror, not because it is associated with any particular race. But your suggestion that Americans would get upset with the name because of racism implies that Americans are fighting the War on Terror because of race and not because the terrorists are Islamic radicals. That is, of course, utter nonsense.
      Are you dizzy from all the flips and twists? You didn't stick the landing, though, sorry.

      It is racist to assume that all Muslims or all Arabs are our enemies in the WoT. That brands millions upon millions (up to 1 billion, if it's all Muslims) as the enemy. Racists can and do do that. Ergo, the people who would get upset about his name are probably racists (and stupid, but that kinda goes hand-in-hand).

      -Arrian
      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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      • #63
        No, not all black people look alike to me, but those two do.
        "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
        George Orwell

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Lorizael
          Ned, my best friend as a child was Muslim. He only tried to blow himself up in my house once or twice. How do you explain his generous humanity compared to the rest of Muslims?
          Radical Muslims are not Christians, though some of them started that way. That most Muslims are peaceful is hardly the issue. One could say that about most Christians in 1099 as well.
          http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Ned
            Radical Muslims are not Christians, though some of them started that way. That most Muslims are peaceful is hardly the issue. One could say that about most Christians in 1099 as well.
            Because I have no idea how this is a response to what I said, I humbly concede the argument.
            Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
            "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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            • #66
              Don't fall to the Chewbacca defense Lorizael!

              JM
              Jon Miller-
              I AM.CANADIAN
              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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              • #67
                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barack Hussein Obama

                Originally posted by Arrian


                Are you dizzy from all the flips and twists? You didn't stick the landing, though, sorry.

                It is racist to assume that all Muslims or all Arabs are our enemies in the WoT. That brands millions upon millions (up to 1 billion, if it's all Muslims) as the enemy. Racists can and do do that. Ergo, the people who would get upset about his name are probably racists (and stupid, but that kinda goes hand-in-hand).

                -Arrian
                It is not racist to say that all radical Muslims are Muslims and that most Muslims agree with Osama bin Laden's goals if not his methods. These are facts.

                It is illogical to say, then, that all Muslims are terrorists; but it is not illogical to say that most Muslims are sympathetic to the goals of the radicals even if they disagree with their methods.

                But even this latter point may be in doubt because there are polls showing that many if not most Muslims agree that homicide bombers are martyrs.

                So if you were to ask the average Muslim where his symphathies lie in the war on terror, they would say, I suggest, that they support OBL and oppose the United States.
                http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                • #68
                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Barack Hussein Obama

                  Originally posted by LordShiva


                  Why would someone get upset over a name because of the war on terror?
                  LS, because it is a Muslim name and because Barak's father was, in fact, a Muslim.
                  http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                  • #69
                    So?

                    JM
                    Jon Miller-
                    I AM.CANADIAN
                    GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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                    • #70
                      Methinks Ned is certifiably nuts...

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Lorizael


                        Because I have no idea how this is a response to what I said, I humbly concede the argument.
                        Lorizel, the point I make is that even the people who blew up the WTC might have seem peaceful as children. I am sure crusaders in 1099 were nice kids as well. But they got radicalized by religious fanatics and went on to sack Jerusalem in the most barbarous way when they took the city in 1099.
                        http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                        • #72
                          Ned: Was setting up concentration camps for Japanese-American citizens a sound policy or a result of racist paranoia? Why/why not?
                          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Odin
                            Methinks Ned is certifiably nuts...
                            And this controversy about Barak's name is only an illusion.
                            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Ned
                              Lorizel, the point I make is that even the people who blew up the WTC might have seem peaceful as children. I am sure crusaders in 1099 were nice kids as well. But they got radicalized by religious fanatics and went on to sack Jerusalem in the most barbarous way when they took the city in 1099.
                              You're right, I should have preemptively killed my bestfriend when we were ten on the grounds that, more than likely, he would grow up thinking the terrorists were the good guys.
                              Click here if you're having trouble sleeping.
                              "We confess our little faults to persuade people that we have no large ones." - François de La Rochefoucauld

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by DinoDoc
                                Ned: Was setting up concentration camps for Japanese-American citizens a sound policy or a result of racist paranoia? Why/why not?
                                I approve of this line of questioning. Please do respond, Ned.

                                -Arrian
                                grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                                The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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