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  • Originally posted by Oerdin


    It kind of reminds of the 1960 Presidential Campaign. The Republicans kept doing hit jobs on Kennedy for being a Catholic claiming that a Catholic President would have to do what the Pope tells him to do thus only a Protestant could be trusted to be President. Later on the same sorts of folks whined endlessly about "the lose of American values" when a Jew got appointed to the President's Cabinet and again when a Jew got elected to Congress. Now they're going ape **** over a muslim being elected to Congress.

    Just the same ignorant bastards doing the same old song and dance.
    later on? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? The first Jewish cabinet member (excluding the CSA) was, IIRC, Oscar Strauss, who was appointed Sec of Commerce and Labor (that was still one dept) by Theodore Roosevelt. The first Jewish congressman I think goes back to the Civil War.

    yup
    Wiki:

    Lewis Charles Levin(November 10, 1808-March 14, 1860) was the first Jewish person elected to the United States Congress.

    Lewis Charles Levin was born in Charleston, South Carolina and graduated from the University of South Carolina in 1828. After teaching for a time he practiced law in several states for a time. He settled in Philadelphia and edited the Philadelphia Daily Sun for a time. In that capacity he was arrested for "exciting to riot and treason" in inciting locals against a Catholic Church.[1]

    He was a member of the American Party platform and is sometimes credited as one of the party's founders. He entered Congress on its platform in 1844. Once in office he argued in favor of prayer in the public schools and against immigration. His role in a nativist party is sometimes deemed a paradox. However, unlike Judah P. Benjamin or David Levy Yulee, he was born in the United States.

    Levin was elected as a candidate of the American Party to the Twenty-ninth, Thirtieth, and Thirty-first Congresses. He served as chairman of the United States House Committee on Engraving during the Thirtieth Congress. He lost reelection in 1850 and returned to teaching.
    "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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    • Originally posted by Arrian
      And he's not even Muslim.

      -Arrian
      Which is really the best bit of this thread.
      "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
      "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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      • Rasmussen did an interesting poll recently, primarly to test the viablity of a Romney candidacy. 43% of Americans wouldn't vote for a Mormon. The only higher demoninations (or lack thereof) are atheists at 60% and Muslims at 61%. So apparantly an atheist with a Muslim name would have a pretty crappy time trying to run...
        "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
        -Bokonon

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        • Originally posted by Ramo
          So apparantly an atheist with a Muslim name and Mormon parents would have a pretty crappy time trying to run...
          Fixed
          "The world is too small in Vorarlberg". Austrian ex-vice-chancellor Hubert Gorbach in a letter to Alistar [sic] Darling, looking for a job...
          "Let me break this down for you, fresh from algebra II. A 95% chance to win 5 times means a (95*5) chance to win = 475% chance to win." Wiglaf, Court jester or hayseed, you judge.

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          • Originally posted by Ned
            As to bigotry in general, there is a lot of if spewed here, in this forum, constantly about Christians. Admit it Dino Doc.
            I don't really see that as being at issue. It is of course true. Hell I could even name posters and threads to illustrate that for you if you want. Would you care to illustrate how that justifies your unjustified prejudice?
            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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            • Originally posted by Ramo
              Rasmussen did an interesting poll recently, primarly to test the viablity of a Romney candidacy. 43% of Americans wouldn't vote for a Mormon. The only higher demoninations (or lack thereof) are atheists at 60% and Muslims at 61%. So apparantly an atheist with a Muslim name would have a pretty crappy time trying to run...
              well i bet Romney is going to educate alot of folks.

              It didnt come when his father ran in '68, did it?
              "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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              • Don't suppose so. '76 neither (Mo Udall).
                "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                -Bokonon

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                • Lewis Charles Levin was born in Charleston, South Carolina and graduated from the University of South Carolina in 1828. After teaching for a time he practiced law in several states for a time. He settled in Philadelphia and edited the Philadelphia Daily Sun for a time. In that capacity he was arrested for "exciting to riot and treason" in inciting locals against a Catholic Church.[1]

                  He was a member of the American Party platform and is sometimes credited as one of the party's founders. He entered Congress on its platform in 1844. Once in office he argued in favor of prayer in the public schools and against immigration. His role in a nativist party is sometimes deemed a paradox. However, unlike Judah P. Benjamin or David Levy Yulee, he was born in the United States


                  "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                  -Bokonon

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                  • What do we care about your opinion, Ramo? You're nothing but a filtthy jihadist!
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • I don't really see why people would decide that they wouldn't vote for a Mormon, but would vote for a believer of some other religion. Sure, some of the Mormon beliefs are ridiculous, but not really more ridiculous than other "mainstream" religions... just younger. Of course, this is an agnostic talking.

                      It's possible the poll data reflects an unthinking reflex reaction based on "Mormons are for polygamy and stuff!" which AFAIK is untrue and has been for 100 years.

                      -Arrian
                      grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                      The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                      • Originally posted by Wernazuma III


                        Which is really the best bit of this thread.
                        And his father isn't even Muslim..

                        JM
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                        • I love Wiki...

                          In 1976, he ran for the Democratic nomination for President as a liberal alternative to the Southern centrist Jimmy Carter, the former Governor of Georgia. Carter had gone from obscure maverick to frontrunner after a string of early caucus and primary victories, beginning in Iowa and New Hampshire. At the time of the Wisconsin primary in April, most of the original 10 candidates had dropped out, leaving Udall, Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson of Washington, Governor George Wallace of Alabama, and Carter. Udall looked set to win the primary and as the returns ticked in, it looked like he would win it. This might have slowed down the Carter momentum. Udall was projected the winner, exclaiming "Oh, how sweet it is". But as the election night progressed, Carter began chipping away at Udall's lead, eventually going into the lead.

                          Some newspapers actually proclaimed Udall the winner because of his lead the night before, not unlike the famous incident in the 1948 presidential election, in which the headlines of the Chicago Tribune erroneously proclaimed "Dewey defeats Truman."

                          Carter's win was by 1%, which was no more than 7,500 votes. He won 37% to Udall's 36%, gaining one more convention delegate than Udall. Despite the small margins, Carter got the headlines and a further boost to his momentum, pulling away from Udall and the other candidates.

                          During the Michigan primary, the Carter campaign had Coleman Young, the mayor of Detroit, accuse Udall of racism for belonging to the Mormon church, which at the time, did not allow blacks to serve in the church's priesthood (since changed in 1978 by revelation to the Mormon prophet, Spencer Kimball). Young's attack was at least somewhat unfair, since Udall had been a longtime critic of that church policy, and had ceased being an active member because of it. Carter's subsequent sweeping of the black vote in the Michigan primary was key to his crucial victory in Michigan.
                          "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                          -Bokonon

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                          • What do we care about your opinion, Ramo? You're nothing but a filtthy jihadist!


                            Don't make me suicide-bomb you...
                            "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
                            -Bokonon

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                            • “The fruit shop shortchanged me! A ****ing jihad on them.” Bump into someone, say, “Hey! A ****ing jihad on you!” “How many jihads have you got going now, Dad?” “Well, 24.” “God, it’s difficult to keep up with them.”


                              -Arrian
                              grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                              The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                              • Originally posted by Ramo
                                Lewis Charles Levin was born in Charleston, South Carolina and graduated from the University of South Carolina in 1828. After teaching for a time he practiced law in several states for a time. He settled in Philadelphia and edited the Philadelphia Daily Sun for a time. In that capacity he was arrested for "exciting to riot and treason" in inciting locals against a Catholic Church.[1]

                                He was a member of the American Party platform and is sometimes credited as one of the party's founders. He entered Congress on its platform in 1844. Once in office he argued in favor of prayer in the public schools and against immigration. His role in a nativist party is sometimes deemed a paradox. However, unlike Judah P. Benjamin or David Levy Yulee, he was born in the United States


                                Nu? the first jewish congressman was a nativist. (Actually considering the political role of the Catholic church in europe at the time, its not THAT surprising, though one wonders what all the German Jewish immigrants thought of this guy) Kinda like the first Muslim cabinet member is a neocon. And the first Catholic Pres was Harvard groomed, son of an ambassador to the UK, who had moved to the "Protestant" side of the Charles River.
                                "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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