Arabic script on the side of busses makes Virginians wet their pants...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Whoha
when combined with all their other behavior yes.

Yep, that they were brown, actually prayed, and spoke badly of US foriegn policy!! So horrible!

[Whoha]

They were doing everything they could to draw attention to themselves, and they got it, stop crying.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Whoha
They were doing everything they could to draw attention to themselves, and they got it, stop crying.

Yeah, they should have just changed their skin color and religion. That always draws the attention.

[Whoha]

Keep saying that this was about race and that they have no responsiblity for being marched off the plane, its so fun to talk about how we're all racist against Islam.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Because it WAS about race and religion. If these were white Christians or even Orthodox Jews dressed in the traditional garb, they never would have been kicked off the plane for what these Imams did.

[Whoha]

If by race and religion you mean acting like a terrorist you'd be correct.

[Whoha]

By the way, if Christians and Jews started blowing up planes and acting in this behavior they would be removed. No one, least of all the pilot, wants to get blown up.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Because it WAS about race and religion. If these were white Christians or even Orthodox Jews dressed in the traditional garb, they never would have been kicked off the plane for what these Imams did.

Incorrect.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154526016533&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Im getting REALLY tired of people saying things that are directly contradicted by reality, without even bothering to look for a source.

Oh, and that, BTW, happened in brave, brave, Canada. Looks like the adult diaper market could be pretty good up there too - well at least theyve got plenty of softwood lumber to make the things out of.

[Peter Triggs]

Meanwhile, in the snowly remoteness of Saskatchewan:

The handsome, clean-cut young man of evidently Pakistani or Indian origin is standing in an airport line, gesticulating emphatically as he says into his cellphone, “If Dad thinks that’s suicide, so be it,” adding after a pause, “This is Allah’s plan for me.”

As might be expected, a cop materializes almost instantly and drags the man off, telling him that his appointment in paradise will have to wait, even though the suicide he is referring to is of the career kind; he’s giving up the law to pursue a more spiritual occupation.

The scene unrolls early in the pilot of a new Canadian comedy series called “Little Mosque on the Prairie.”

Yet that fictional moment is an all-too-possible occurrence, as witnessed when six imams were hauled off a US Airways plane in Minnesota in November after apparently spooking at least one fellow passenger by murmuring prayers that included the word Allah.

“Little Mosque on the Prairie” ventures into new and perhaps treacherous terrain: trying to explore the funny side of being a Muslim and adapting to life in post 9/11 North America. Its creators admit to uneasiness as to whether Canadians and Americans can laugh about the daily travails of those who many consider a looming menace.

“It’s a question we ask ourselves all the time,” said Mary Darling, one of the show’s three executive producers and an American who has lived in Canada for the last decade. “If 9/11 is still too raw, it might not work,” she said.

There is the other side of that coin too — what will Muslims think? — which the show’s creators usually summarize in one long sentence that mentions the uproar prompted by Salman Rushdie as well as the Danish cartoons about the Prophet Muhammad.

This concern stems from the almost automatic presumption that “to look at Muslims in an entertaining way is going to be controversial because they will riot in the streets,” said Al Rae, one of the show’s writers, who noted that he does research by bouncing potential scenarios off cab drivers here. Or as Amaar, the young man detained in the opening airport scene, puts it sardonically, “Muslims all over the world are known for their sense of humor.”

Little Mosque is the brainchild of Regina-based filmmaker Zarqa Nawaz, who is writing and producing the comedy. Nawaz -- whose company is called FUNdamentalist Films because she wants to put the "fun back into fundamentalism" -- pitched CBC on the show two years ago. She's working with WestWind Pictures, also of Regina.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

LotM

[Arrian]

Originally posted by lord of the mark



So I shouldnt look for suspicious packages on the metro? Do you think Obamarama is going to cancel the FTA programs to encourage riders to look for suspicisous activity? When Bush is gone, we will still have a problem with terrorists, and we will be focusing on steps to stop them here. After all, thats the one thing both parties agree on right, its what we do abroad thats divisive.

Yeah, we "only lost" 3000 people on 9/11. And billions of dollars of real estate, and had the entire country shut down for a couple of days, and the national air space for several days. And the airport here was shut down for months. And oh yeah, that day we thought it could have been as many as 50,000 at the WTC, and we didnt lose the Capital building only cause of a handful of brave folks, and we thought there was a fifth plane. And no, its not the same as murders, which as someone whos living in Baltimore well knows, is something most Americans can avoid, or need fear only when their family lives fall apart. Geez, Im old enough to remember when Canada was torn apart by a goddamned pair of kidnappings. How many kidnappings have been recorded in Canada in the last 35 years, but those practically set the country into a civil war, and their political impacts are still being felt. And may yet cause Canada to cease to exist. Cause you know, a political attack, an aact of war, has meanings and implications beyond normal crime. You would think a goddamned physicist would be smart enough to understand that, but then the world is full of surprises.

1. Where is the line between vigilance and hysteria? Of course if you see a suspicious (untended, basically, right?) package on the subway it's rational to react to that. First off, you're in DC. So the threat level is higher for you. Second, the subway is a particularly vulnerable target. That being said, do you spend the entire time on the train looking around for suspicious packages? I hope not.

2. We all agree we face a threat. Just how much we should re-order our lives in response to that threat is something about which reasonable people may disagree.

-Arrian

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
Incorrect.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154526016533&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Im getting REALLY tired of people saying things that are directly contradicted by reality, without even bothering to look for a source.

Oh, and that, BTW, happened in brave, brave, Canada. Looks like the adult diaper market could be pretty good up there too - well at least theyve got plenty of softwood lumber to make the things out of.

Wow... but I hope you aren't saying it was justified.

And am I supposed to know every single instance of when a person was escorted off a plane for praying?

By the way, if Christians and Jews started blowing up planes and acting in this behavior they would be removed.

So because a few Muslims blew up planes, every one of the others (over a billion of 'em!) is a suspect. How is it not based on religion now?

[Whoha]

Because muslims who don't act in this fashion aren't removed from planes, and indeed millions of them manage to fly without incident.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Whoha
Because muslims who don't act in this fashion aren't removed from planes, and indeed millions of them manage to fly without incident.

And yet some are removed for praying and making comments about the war. It's nice to know that when you go flying somewhere that you won't be removed from the plane if you mistakenly sit in the wrong seat.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
And am I supposed to know every single instance of when a person was escorted off a plane for praying?

No but you might consider not making statements like the following based on nothing:


"Because it WAS about race and religion. If these were white Christians or even Orthodox Jews dressed in the traditional garb, they never would have been kicked off the plane for what these Imams did. "


You could start right here by admitting that the above is incorrect, as was the entire sequence of posts claiming that this happened because the guys were brown or muslims or whatever.


Was it justified - I dont know, I wasnt on the goddamned plane. Security people CAN make mistakes. Just because they made a mistake, if they made one, doesnt mean their mistake was based on race or on a particular religion.