Where Have the Hurricanes Gone?

[dannubis]

In general, things are getting warmer.

We however do not know if we are the cause of it.

So, the real question is: "Do we want to take the risk or not?"

[Solly]

Originally posted by dannubis
In general, things are getting warmer.

Correction: observed temperatures have increased in the northern hemisphere.

We can't yet predict what will happen in the future. (Last spring's forecast was for a heavy hurricane season.)

[Berzerker]

Odin

And this has WHAT to do with hurricanes?

Hurricanes are storms, stronger ice age storms means stronger hurricanes. Not surprisingly the maritime records during the mini ice age show Atlantic hurricanes were stronger as the higher latitudes cooled.

Che and I have been trying to pound in your hollow head that it's MID-LATITUDE systems are fueled by temperature gradients, NOT tropical systems.

God you just make **** up, che left our discussion dazed and confused. And YOU said temperature gradients have nothing to do with hurricanes while I said they did, I'm right of course, and you're clueles of course... Hurricanes wont even form without a temperature gradient, much less hit Lousiana or New York...

Ice Age = stronger mid-latitide storms and fewer and weaker hurricanes.

Did you not understand why the 20th latitude inversion inhibits hurricanes? Warmer air at higher altitudes reduce the contrast between the warm lower levels of the hurricane and the cool upper levels - hurricanes need that contrast - that temperature gradient - increased, not decreased. Cooler ice age air masses approaching the region of hurricane formation and movement provide that increased contrast, not global warming. Use a little common sense, wouldya. If a layer of warmer air 30,000 ft up can dismantle a hurricane while colder air would promote a hurricane's growth and movement, then it is illogical to argue a cooler globe produces fewer, weaker hurricanes.

[BlackCat]

Berz, stop making a fool of yourself - there are two kinds of storms in the north atlantic - pressure driven and temperature driven.

The first are found in the northern part and are typically hitting europe while the latter are created in the southern part and are knocking on Che's door.

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by Berzerker
Another documentary explained why life as we know it took so long to evolve when life began almost 4 billion years ago after the "Earth" got smacked by an object almost large enough to destroy the planet. Because the collision was a glancing blow the Earth started spinning faster with a tilt (seasons), too fast for life to get far. The moon was much closer then and the tides were enormous, seismic activity would have been far worse, and the winds were far too strong for life to get a foothold on land. By a 1/2 billion years ago the Earth had slowed enough and the moon drifted away to allow for the development of animal life and conquest of the land. Strange, I seem to recall some creation story related to Genesis where God "imparted" the seasons to Earth.

I now accept Jesus into my life.

[dannubis]

Originally posted by Park Avenue


Correction: observed temperatures have increased in the northern hemisphere.

We can't yet predict what will happen in the future. (Last spring's forecast was for a heavy hurricane season.)

A very practical example of "the close to home" category:
The waters of the North Sea have been in a warm cycle for more than 20 years now. Subtropical species that were not living in our waters 15 years ago are quite common now.

All the glaciers in the world are melting at an ever increasing rate. Icecaps are thinning. Permafrost is retreating to the north...

I think it is quite safe to say that things have become warmer and will continue to do so in the forseeable future. Why? Because of all of the examples I named to you none indicates a change in the current trend.

Again, whether this is a natural phenomenon or a human made phenomenon is not clear yet.

So my question, which you failed to answer with your "correction" still stands. Will we take the risk ?

[Odin]

Originally posted by BlackCat
Berz, stop making a fool of yourself - there are two kinds of storms in the north atlantic - pressure driven and temperature driven.

The first are found in the northern part and are typically hitting europe while the latter are created in the southern part and are knocking on Che's door.

[chequita guevara]

Your restating of what you watched on tv gives us some clues as to why you are so off base. The collision that almost destroyed the Earth . . . that was the same collision that created the moon. The ejecta from the impact colalessed to form the moon.

I shoulder to think what else you misunderstood.

[Berzerker]

Berz, stop making a fool of yourself - there are two kinds of storms in the north atlantic - pressure driven and temperature driven.

Thats nice, what does that have to do with what I said?

The first are found in the northern part and are typically hitting europe while the latter are created in the southern part and are knocking on Che's door.

see above... But at least you impressed Odin with all that...

Your restating of what you watched on tv gives us some clues as to why you are so off base. The collision that almost destroyed the Earth . . . that was the same collision that created the moon. The ejecta from the impact colalessed to form the moon.

I shoulder to think what else you misunderstood.

You misunderstood my post, put some ice on that shoulder and then apply heat. I did not say the moon was or was not created by the collision, only that the moon was around when life started and it was much closer then.

[pchang]

A new theory

says Saharan dust storms inhibit hurricane formation.

[Thorn]

I actually asked god about it, he said that for what we are in for with current events we don't need the extra tramua!!!

[Solly]

Originally posted by dannubis


A very practical example of "the close to home" category:
The waters of the North Sea have been in a warm cycle for more than 20 years now. Subtropical species that were not living in our waters 15 years ago are quite common now.

All the glaciers in the world are melting at an ever increasing rate. Icecaps are thinning. Permafrost is retreating to the north...

I think it is quite safe to say that things have become warmer

Mostly granted.

and will continue to do so in the forseeable future.

Is that a forecast with suitable confidence intervals, or a scenario?

Why? Because of all of the examples I named to you none indicates a change in the current trend.

A trend is a trend is a trend.
The question is: will it bend?
Or alter its course.
Through some unforeseen force,
And come to a premature end?

Again, whether this is a natural phenomenon or a human made phenomenon is not clear yet.

So my question, which you failed to answer with your "correction" still stands. Will we take the risk ?

What risk?

[SpencerH]

Where Have the Hurricanes Gone?

Long time passing.

[Caligastia]

Would it be possible to make a bet on global warming? I mean, are the purported effects something that could be seen within the lifetime of anyone alive today? If so, I think we should have a bet on it.

[Lorizael]

The long term effects of inflation might make a bet made today trivial in the future. The destruction of our civilization through environmental collapse might, also.