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Originally posted by Caligastia
Bad news for global warming cultists?
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c..._id=&Issue_id=
Bad news for global warming cultists?
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c..._id=&Issue_id=
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Nope - that only reveals yet another bunch of heretics paid by the oil companies.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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so now stalwarts of the environmental movement a decade or two ago are lackeys of the oil companies? I suggest you read that link instead of smearing people ala AlgoreComment
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Well, if you check my earlier postings on this subject, you may encounter a small bit of irony in that comment
With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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Honestly Berz...you should have picked up on that, especially with 'heretics' in there.
...people like to cry a lot... - Pekka
...we just argue without evidence, secure in our own superiority. - SnottyComment
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sorry, BC, I cant keep track of all the players. Your earlier skepticism is duly noted and applauded
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Well,don't be too hasty to count me in for your opinion - I must admit that I have a bad habit of beliving in what science can prove, and if it some day can prove that humans are responsible for GW, you will find me on the other side.Originally posted by Berzerker
sorry, BC, I cant keep track of all the players. Your earlier skepticism is duly noted and applauded
Problem is that neither HGW's nor non HGW's has yet come up with sufficable evidence.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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There are plenty of reasons for distrusting the IPCC, though.Originally posted by BlackCat
Well,don't be too hasty to count me in for your opinion - I must admit that I have a bad habit of beliving in what science can prove, and if it some day can prove that humans are responsible for GW, you will find me on the other side.
Problem is that neither HGW's nor non HGW's has yet come up with sufficable evidence.www.my-piano.blogspotComment
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Well, while I might refer to them, I seriously doubt that I will do it as some kind of evidence of truth - though, neither will I say they are liars. I just consider them as an unreliable source,Originally posted by Doddler
There are plenty of reasons for distrusting the IPCC, though.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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No. The two events are related, probably part of the same meta-cycle of water sloshing back and forth across the ocean.Originally posted by Berzerker
I understand that, but wont warmer waters in the E Pacific inhibit hurricane activity? If the oceans warm a degree or two, we will get fewer La Ninas and more El Ninos...Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Wouldn't it be wiser to err on the side of caution rather than incaution? If we're wrong and we act on it, we lose some growth. If you're wrong, and we don nothing, we stand to lose a lot more. Greater risk without proportional reward.Originally posted by BlackCat
Problem is that neither HGW's nor non HGW's has yet come up with sufficable evidence.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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What's your discount rate (for hypothetical and uncertain results in many decades from now)?Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Wouldn't it be wiser to err on the side of caution rather than incaution? If we're wrong and we act on it, we lose some growth. If you're wrong, and we don nothing, we stand to lose a lot more. Greater risk without proportional reward.
There are lots of very cheap solutions to global warming if CO2 is found to be the culprit anyway, we don't need to assume massive costs of mitigation. We'd just like to know what we're playing with first.www.my-piano.blogspotComment
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I know its a cycle, but if warmer water in the E Pacific inhibits hurricane activity in the Atlantic, then wouldn't "global warming" produce warmer waters in the E Pacific regardless of the cycle? El Nino would be warmer, neutral periods would be warmer, and La Ninas would be warmer, perhaps even disappearing. If we were going into an ice age, or mini ice age, and the world's oceans cooled a bit, El Nino like conditions would be more uncommon, might even disappear too.No. The two events are related, probably part of the same meta-cycle of water sloshing back and forth across the ocean.Comment
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A quiet start so far. We're waiting.www.my-piano.blogspotComment
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I think that even the most stubborn HTBGW'ers has accepted that there will be no Al Gore storms, so I think this thread is a bit moot.Originally posted by Doddler
A quiet start so far. We're waiting.With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.
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