Were there only wusses in WWII besides Russians, Germans and Americans?

[siron]

It's his way to cancel the apolyton meeting.

Who wants to drink beer with such a moron?

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Asher

In terms of people.

Canada is larger in terms of area, and in ball size -- again, it was the states that was too scared of Germany to fight.

Not scared. More honestly it was that the US citizenship looked back to the ideals of the founding father's including the writtings of people like Washington and Jefferson who repeatedly and forcefully said the US should stay out of European wars and isolate itself for European affairs. That may have been good policy in 1800 but it wasn't as good a policy in 1939 though it takes a while to change 150 years of political tradition.

[Dinner]

Originally posted by Ecthy
Wuss as in not being able to put up a proper fight.

It's true Germany never managed to get too close on Britain, but in open field the Brits ran like chicken.

Dunkerque anyone?

El Alamein anyone? It seems on the open plains of north Africa the British Army took the best the Germans could put out and then swept them from the continent.

Edit: You can also tell the people of Dresden (or dozens of other German cities) that the Brits couldn't put up a proper fight and were wusses.

[molly bloom]

Re: Were there only wusses in WWII besides Russians, Germans and Americans?

Originally posted by Ecthy
Let's face it, most armies collapsed after a few weeks of fighting, only 3 combatant nations stood up and did some proper fighting, those being the German, American and the Soviet Russian army (jokes expected).

... but let's have a ,look at the English. They had nothing to stop the Germans in '40, and the rollback was done mainly by US forces. Did the Brits produce any efforts at all except develop some electronics and disturb our planes? Japanese and Chinese are quite laughable too.

Discuss.

Not too knowledgeable about either North Africa or the jungle campaign in Burma, are you ?


I'd suggest you examine the career of Orde Wingate (as an example of an unorthodox British commander and strategist) and the defence of the Admin Box in the Arakan Campaign where elite Japanese fighting units were fought off by a mixture of troops from the Empire including cooks and sanitary engineers.

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Sir Ralph
Why anyone is responding to this moronic troll is completely beyond me.

It's beyond me, too. This is one of the stupidest OPs I've seen here, and I've seen alot.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by siron
It's his way to cancel the apolyton meeting.

Who wants to drink beer with such a moron?

Nah, trolling earns you merit points in the Apolyton OT. Look, he's even sporting the troll badge.

[BeBMan]

So let's spam here

[Drake Tungsten]

I'd suggest you examine the career of Orde Wingate (as an example of an unorthodox British commander and strategist) and the defence of the Admin Box in the Arakan Campaign where elite Japanese fighting units were fought off by a mixture of troops from the Empire including cooks and sanitary engineers.

It's already been established that the Japanese army was crap. The Russians kicked their ass in 1939 and they couldn't even finish off the hopelessly divided and weak Chinese. As such, a minor British triumph over the IJA does little to prove the worth of the British Army, particularly coming as it did after years of humiliating defeats for the British in the Far East. Thank god the Americans and the Aussies were around to actually recapture territory from the Japanese...

[Saras]

[Ecthy]

Sheesh, some of you are a bit sensitive these days, no? If you find it's a lame troll, why get all offensive about it?

After all it does receive repleis, so stop b!tching and crying. If you don't like it, don't post. It doesn't even concern victims of the war, just players. So stop jumping on me, but I guess that's part of a successful troll.

The rest of you, go ahead.

[Harovan]

Yea, calling the troll is unwelcome!

Biting on the other hand...

[Ecthy]

Does a "lame troll" receive hundreds of replies? Maybe you should explain me why France and the UK combined couldn't fight as well as Germany did, seeing how they had a larger population and economy.

[Ecthy]

And Canada!

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

I'd suggest you examine the career of Orde Wingate (as an example of an unorthodox British commander and strategist) and the defence of the Admin Box in the Arakan Campaign where elite Japanese fighting units were fought off by a mixture of troops from the Empire including cooks and sanitary engineers.

It's already been established that the Japanese army was crap.

Which undoubtedly explains Bataan and Corregidor and the fall of the Philippines too. Yawn.

Wingate must be judged on his brave and brilliant leadership, and, particularly, on his positive new ideas on every aspect of irregular warfare. It is a tragedy that because of his early death, the final Chindit campaigns were mishandled by commanders who did not really believe in his ideas - a further tragedy that Kirby's biased and unprofessional view in the 'Official History of the Burma Campaign' has been allowed to besmirch the reputation of a brave officer and a distinguished military thinker. Referring to the 'Official History', Sir Robert Thompson, the counter-insurgency expert, who took part in both Chindit campaigns, wrote:

'The whole assessment was no more than a hatchet job by little men who could not have competed with Wingate either in military argument or in battle'.

David Rooney, History Today March 1994


Others who appreciated the unconventional Wingate:

The son of a British officer, Wingate was born in India, received a military education, and was commissioned in 1923. He served in India and then in the Sudan, where he studied Arabic and Semitics, and acquired a familiarity with the Middle East. Wingate was recognized as a talented officer, and by 1936 he had earned the rank of captain. That same year he was transferred to Eretz Yisrael, and served there for the next three years.

Wingate arrived in Eretz Yisrael as an intelligence officer at a time when small bands of Arab rioters were regularly attacking both the British and the Jews. To counter this offensive, Wingate organized and trained “Special Night Squads,” comprised primarily of Haganah fighters, which were successfully employed throughout the Yishuv. Their tactics were based on the strategic principles of surprise, mobility, and night attacks, and they served effectively both as defensive and offensive units, successfully pre-empting and resisting Arab attacks.

Wingate maintained good contacts with the heads of the Yishuv and the Haganah. He learned Hebrew, and he demonstrated his ardent belief that the Jews were entitled to their homeland in Eretz Yisrael. He also recognized the need for a working military force, and he dreamed of heading the army of the future Jewish state. Because of his efforts and support, he was called in the Yishuv “ha-yedid,” the friend.

In 1941 he led the force in Ethiopia against the Italians and was a major figure in liberating the country.

Had he survived the war Ben-Gurion said he would have offered him the top command in the Israeli Army.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/wingate.html

Winston Churchill to the House of Commons:

"There was a man of genius, who might well have become a man of destiny."

[Drake Tungsten]

Which undoubtedly explains Bataan and Corregidor and the fall of the Philippines too. Yawn.

You'll notice that we took those places back. I'm having a hard time thinking of any places the Brits managed to take back from the Japs, on the other hand...