Were there only wusses in WWII besides Russians, Germans and Americans?

[Ecthy]

Asher, even if occupying the cities wouldn't suffice for controlling the country's resources, it would be enough to eliminate your country from the war.

[Agent Valentine]

The Japanese may have fought well on the battlefield but fighting well isn't enough to be considered a worthy opponent. They showed no respect for civilians or prisoners of war and were brutal to those they occupied, such as the Lao people.

Thanks, I'll take the British or the French any day of the week over the Japanese. Respectable opponents are the ones that respect you, that take a punch and still keep on acting as though they're human beings with conscience and empathy. The Japanese didn't.

[Tingkai]

The Germans didn't have the know-how to invade across the Channel. No way they would have made it across the Atlantic.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten


It'd be easier for me to find some old Japanese soldiers and ask them what country they think beat them in WWII.

It might be easier perhaps because after the Japanese murdered the Allied sick and wounded in the prelude to the Admin Box battle in Burma the British forces were not inclined to capture Japanese prisoners.

I'm guessing Britain isn't going to be high on their list...

Oh of course, because everyone knows that the Manhattan Project and the atom bombs were purely American inventions don't they ? Or at least so some Americans would have us believe...

Yes, advancing island by island across that "empty" ocean was surely much easier than attacking Burma from adjacent India, a major British stronghold...

So you've actually fought in dense jungle terrain in a monsoon have you ? I must say it sounds so much less difficult than attacking isolated coral atolls short on fresh water and food. Then of course the British were also involved in North Africa and had home islands perilously close to Festung Europa to protect.

Mounting a spirited defense is all well and good, but you do need to go back on the offensive at some point, something the British were incapable of against both the Germans and the Japanese.

Wrong on both points, but don't let mere facts get in the way of traducing the name of the British Army. Could I suggest that perhaps you get someone who can read English to help you understand exactly what the Burma Campaign was, and who Orde Wingate was?

I do understand that I've already posted information about both, but you seem unable to take it in. Here's a helpful quote from Orde Wingate himself:

"Today we stand on the threshold of battle. The time of preparation is over, and we are moving on the enemy to prove ourselves and our methods. We need not, as we go forward into the conflict, suspect opportunity of withdrawing and are here because we have chosen to bear the burden and the heat of the day."

Now why don't you share your own military history with us ? I'm sure we'd all be fascinated to know where you've campaigned.

That's really a commentary on who fought the war smarter, isn't it?

Lonestar


No, it's simply a response to Drake's trolling posts.

Of course. What with the undeclared Naval war and all...tell that to the Reuben James

I'm not sure what your point is. Great Britain was at war from 1939 onwards, at a time when American companies were still trading with Nazi Germany.

In any case I prefer to remember London and Coventry and Liverpool- bombed in 1940.

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Great Britain was at war from 1939 onwards, at a time when American companies were still trading with Nazi Germany.

Not to mention the charges of IBM automating the holocaust.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


Not to mention the charges of IBM automating the holocaust.

Don't mention the war.

And certainly, whatever you do, don't mention Prescott Bush...

[Provost Harrison]

And then there was Henry Ford, fitted right in the with the Nazi way of thinking. Didn't he receive a big medal from the Germans in 1938?

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Asher:

You're viewing the war in hindsight and not taking into account contemporary views at the time.

There were many things going on at that time in the US, many of which have been mentioned here. German Americans were a factor... as were Irish Americans, another very large group who were in general very anti-British (and still are). Ireland didn't participate in the war at all... and many are still proud of that position. My grandfather, an Irish American, was actually very vocally against the war because he didn't want the US to be bailing out the UK.

Also, you're projecting the current view of WW2 as "the Great war" and "the greatest generation of warriors" onto the past. I think the average person in North America at the time would have seen it as just another one of the many many conflicts to take place in Europe.... so naturally people wouldn't be all gung ho about spending billions on someone else's big fight. In fact, Canadians and Newfoundlanders were resentful of being obliged to go over and fight another of Britain's wars - remember, this would have been just after WWI, just after the Boer War, etc. People were just sick of being forced to fight for Britain. It was also well known that Newfoundlanders and Canadians (the "colonials") would be used as front line cannon fodder for the British... one of the reasons why our casualities are so unusually high.

So to say that Canada (or Newfoundland) fought because it had some kind of moral high ground is just blatantly false. In fact, that Canada and Newfoundland were forced to take on such an un-naturally big burden for a war that largely didn't involve them is one of the great injustices of the 20th century. It was also one of the catalysts for Newfoundland and Canada's final split with GB.

[Provost Harrison]

Well the Queen is still your head of state, so you evidently didn't split that much...

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Don't mention the war.

And certainly, whatever you do, don't mention Prescott Bush...

No, under no circumstances should Prescott Bush be mentioned.

[molly bloom]

And certainly under no circumstances mention 'The Coalition of American Nationalities' and Nazi apologists, far right emigres and Holocaust deniers.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Well the Queen is still your head of state, so you evidently didn't split that much...

We got our own citizenship shortly after the war... and Newfoundland by becoming a province of Canada.

And our head of state is the Queen of Canada, the fact that she is also the Queen of the UK isn't relavent. UK Parliament has no authority here.

[Kontiki]

Not sure where you're getting some of your history from, Jimmy. Canada's big "split" from GB was after WWI (1931 to be precise). We were under no obligation to assist Britain in WWII, and indeed our parliament debated and voted on a declaration of war. Sure, it was something of a foregone conclusion, but both entering and the extent of our involvement was of our own choosing.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Asher
And I think Canada could fight the war singlehandedly pretty well.

Canada didn't even make the top seven Industrially powerful belligerant list. combined fleet article

The war was carried by American and Russian might.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by molly bloom

Lonestar


No, it's simply a response to Drake's trolling posts.

Fair enough.

I'm not sure what your point is. Great Britain was at war from 1939 onwards, at a time when American companies were still trading with Nazi Germany.

They were also still trading with Britain and the commonwealth countries...and send a lot more weapons and money downrange than to, say, Germany.