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[Lawrence of Arabia]

The U.N. does not recognize the existance of a Palestinian state, they do not have a seat in the general assembly.

how many more times do you want me to post this?

On 10 December 1969, the General Assembly adopted resolution 2535 B (XXIV), which reaffirmed the inalienable rights of the people of Palestine. On 8 December 1970, the General Assembly adopted resolution 2672 C (XXV), which recognized that the people of Palestine are entitled to equal rights and self-determination in accordance with the Charter of the U.N.


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On 14 October 1974, the General Assembly, through resolution 3210 (XXIX) recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people


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That same year, in resolution 43/177 of 15 December 1988, the General Assembly acknowledged the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988 and decided, inter alia, that the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

And LoA and his field of study can kiss the ass of reality on the topic.

why? cuz you nothing to say against it intellectually?

[notyoueither]

No, because what you spout off about is meaningless.

The NATO backed invasion of Afghanistan was illegal.

Well, child, if that was illegal, your 'law' is worth less than the play ground rules of a primary school principal who has lost control.

[notyoueither]

You're standing by the fast lane and yelling at the drivers.

[notyoueither]

Your concepts amount to less than the ass-end of a fly taken head-on by the windscreen of the international community.

[Vesayen]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia

The U.N. does not recognize the existance of a Palestinian state, they do not have a seat in the general assembly.

how many more times do you want me to post this?

On 10 December 1969, the General Assembly adopted resolution 2535 B (XXIV), which reaffirmed the inalienable rights of the people of Palestine. On 8 December 1970, the General Assembly adopted resolution 2672 C (XXV), which recognized that the people of Palestine are entitled to equal rights and self-determination in accordance with the Charter of the U.N.


quote:
On 14 October 1974, the General Assembly, through resolution 3210 (XXIX) recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people


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That same year, in resolution 43/177 of 15 December 1988, the General Assembly acknowledged the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988 and decided, inter alia, that the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

And LoA and his field of study can kiss the ass of reality on the topic.

why? cuz you nothing to say against it intellectually?

Thats nice. So they should have a state. Where is the general assmelby seat? Oh wait, they don't have one. They are not a state.


I really should be more mocking, notyoueither made a good analogy.

Your "law" is meaningless. It carries no moral or legal authority. It is not legitimate in the way that law is legitimate.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
You probably should use something in addition to the CIA... they aren't exactly all that trustworthy anymore .

Tru dat. Although one would suspect them to be allied with the israelis. Something about burning bush and all.

Could be they simply misanalyzed the data though.

[Darius871]

Originally posted by Sirotnikov

Huh?
Since when is powerplant in Ashdod built with international funds?

Are you inventing facts, old buddy?

Originally posted by GePap

I will find the exact article where it was mentioned that international funds were used in building the powerplant within the Gaza strip.

*BUMP*

Still waiting...

[Edan]

Originally posted by GePap


NO, it was a power station, the Israelis blew up the transfer station, leaving the power plant, built with international funds, useless.

Incorrect:

The Gaza Strip requires 200 megawatts of electricity, half of which is provided by the power station, and half which is supplied by the Israel Electric Corporation. After the IAF strike, the power station's capacity was cut by half.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/733394.html

[GePap]

Guess who partly owns that power plant?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060701/ts_nm/mideast_gaza_usa_dc

Israeli strike on Gaza power plant will cost US

By Adam Entous Sat Jul 1, 3:13 PM ET

JERUSALEM (Reuters) -
Israel's bombing of Gaza's main power plant could end up costing its closest ally, the U.S. government, because it partially insured the project for up to $48 million, officials involved in the project said on Saturday.
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U.S. officials would not say whether Washington would ask Israel for reimbursement.

Israel bombed the power plant on Wednesday at the start of an offensive to try to get Palestinian militants to free a captured soldier, Corporal Gilad Shalit.

A Western aid official involved in the matter said Israel's decision to hit the power plant was a surprise in large part "because it was American-owned."

The Israeli army, in a statement, defended the attack, saying the power plant was targeted "in order to disrupt the activities of the terror infrastructure involved directly and indirectly in the abduction of Corporal Shalit."

In July 2004, a subsidiary of Morganti Group Inc., a Connecticut-based construction company, received $48 million in political risk insurance for the 140 megawatt plant from the U.S. Overseas Private Investment Corp. (OPIC), an arm of the U.S. government that backs American business deals abroad.

The plant began generating power in June 2002 and reached full commercial operation in March 2004, OPIC said in a statement at the time announcing its support for the project.

"OPIC has been told by Morganti that it will be submitting a claim," said Micaela Schweitzer-Bluhm, spokeswoman for the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem. "OPIC has to assess the claim before it will make a decision."

But according to officials involved in the project, OPIC plans to reimburse the company for the damages using U.S. funds.

Hours after the Israeli strike on the power plant, White House spokesman Tony Snow said the United States urged Israel to "avoid the unnecessary destruction of property and infrastructure."

The attack on the power plant cut off electricity for hundreds of thousands of Gaza residents.

The Israeli army statement said "precautions were taken so that civilians would not be harmed as a direct result of the attack."

To minimize damage to infrastructure, the strike targeted transformers rather than the entire plant, the army said.

But Palestinian officials say that knocking out Gaza's main power plant put the lives of hundreds of patients in local hospitals in imminent danger.

U.N. officials have also warned in recent days that fuel to power the coastal strip's sanitation system was running out.

Almost all water wells and wastewater pumping stations in Gaza are equipped with stand-by generators, but most fuel tanks will run dry between July 2-5, according to an official involved in administering the wells.

Israel's army said on Friday that it aimed to open a Gaza border crossing next week to ensure food and fuel supplies reach Palestinians despite the offensive.

[GePap]

Originally posted by Darius871



*BUMP*

Still waiting...

Why? Ashdod is in Israel. The power plant we are talking about is in Gaza. I have no idea what power plant Siro is talking about. But note the article above.

[Ramo]

Yeah, let's deny power to water purification plants. Fine job by the Israelis. That'll show the evil terrorists.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by notyoueither


The PA is not only harbouring, but encouraging terrorist acts.

Countries get invaded, their governments taken apart, and are occupied for such acts.

I don't recall this happening with Reagan and his support for the Contras.


Nor indeed, for the Irish American fundraisers and supporters of the I.R.A. .


It's a funny old world....

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia

The U.N. does not recognize the existance of a Palestinian state, they do not have a seat in the general assembly.

how many more times do you want me to post this?

On 10 December 1969, the General Assembly adopted resolution 2535 B (XXIV), which reaffirmed the inalienable rights of the people of Palestine. On 8 December 1970, the General Assembly adopted resolution 2672 C (XXV), which recognized that the people of Palestine are entitled to equal rights and self-determination in accordance with the Charter of the U.N.


quote:
On 14 October 1974, the General Assembly, through resolution 3210 (XXIX) recognized the PLO as the representative of the Palestinian people


quote:
That same year, in resolution 43/177 of 15 December 1988, the General Assembly acknowledged the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988 and decided, inter alia, that the designation "Palestine" should be used in place of the designation "Palestine Liberation Organization" in the United Nations system.

And LoA and his field of study can kiss the ass of reality on the topic.

why? cuz you nothing to say against it intellectually?

Just curious...Doesn't "acknowledging" mean something totally different than "recognizing" in UN speak? Isn't this, in fact, merely the UN saying that "yes, we know you have declared a state, but are giving no official status to that declaration other than to 'acknowledge' its existence"?

[Gibsie]

Come on everyone, point and laugh at PLATO: he's actually using logic and rational interpretation to counter LoA's point, instead of a barrage of ad hominem attacks. Madness I tell you!

[Vesayen]

I am not using ad hominem attacks, I am explaining in detail(repetadly) why he is wrong.

If he is denser then a signularity filled with diamonds, thats not my fault.