Gratuitous US-Italy Match Thread

[LordShiva]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
There is a reason everyone hates the Italian football team.

Yet, in the Italy-U.S. game, Italy was only the 2nd-most hated team

[Cort Haus]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Oh about the video on YouTube featuring the Italians diving. That's team England. You can see coach Sven Goran Eriksson and some black players.. that Italy doesn't have..

I don't know who made that video, but it was at one point circulated as a Chelsea training session. I certainly don't think Sven stars in it - I expect it's some pub team 'avin a larf.

[Cort Haus]

After some of the discussion on the 'physicality' of the game, Ghana vs USA should be interesting, as the Ghanains are big blokes and very prepared to 'mix it'. 'Elbows' Essien in particular might serve up some spice.

I didn't think the US were outrageously dirty, or the Italians outrageously divey in their match, but I thought the USA gave an inspiring performance for a team with a man down, and were also the better side early on when Italy scored. The way they went for the win at the end made for a great game, and if they'd played like that against the Czechs they might have got something out of that game, too.

I had expected better from Italy though, after their strong performance against Ghana.

[reds4ever]

Originally posted by Cort Haus


I don't know who made that video, but it was at one point circulated as a Chelsea training session. I certainly don't think Sven stars in it - I expect it's some pub team 'avin a larf.

Thats where I originally saw it.

[alva]

A little further down the page, it's also called 'German training'.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Victor Galis
Wasn't there a perfectly good Italian goal disallowed?

Nope, it was offsides, wqnt proof?

Originally posted by siron
The ref bashing becomes pathetic.

According to the most important german football magazine the mistakes were done by Larrionda's assistants:

IIRC 5 of the 12 offside calls against Italy were wrong. But do the Italians complain like little childs? No, they are men.

All important decisions were decided correctly. Learn some rules and get over it.

And some add on probably unmentioned in american media:

The FIFA vice president in charge of referees congratulated Larrionda for his performance after the Italy-USA match.

See?

ACK!

[Tuberski]

You may hate rough play as the Americans played.

You may hate diving as the Italians played.

But it seems to work for both teams.

ACK!

[Barnabas]

How on earth are italians little girls?!?!

I mean, Gattuso has probably more testosterone than the whole USA team combined

[Sikander]

Originally posted by siron


Yes. Even the whole non-anglo american media seems to be involved.

For example, let us look how it was commented on swiss tv:

Bad foul play! Oh, red card?! An excessive call in my opinion. Red for Pablo Mastroeni? Ouch, straight red card? Yellow, yes...(but) red? I would put a question mark there. A clear foul play, of course, but straight red? Looking forward to the replay.

(replay starts and apparently some FIFA official put his gun on the commentator's head) Well, it was a hard attack...it was a hard attack...dangerous to health. Yep, correct, I think the red card is justifiable. I correct the first impression and say: yes...(end of video)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJCJKLSIUyE&search=mastroeni

Only the american media should be trusted. Which apparently never make mistakes with its coverage. BTW. Can you contact me via icq when you finally found the dangerous WMDs in iraq? Thanks.

You got trolled, but amusing response nonetheless.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Footie Mad
Haha, when will the first real american football hooligans start to appear? That shall truely be the day that americans have come closer to the sport than ever.

I can't see our goons being drawn away from football and hockey for soccer though. As rough as soccer can be, it can't hold a candle to either football or hockey for violence, and goons are drawn to violence. Also, Americans are only dimly aware of the national team during the world cup. The rest of the time they aren't on broadcast television, and rare enough on cable. Professional soccer is pretty weak in the U.S. in terms of being televised as well as attendence. So most of us see our national side for 1-3 television appearances every 4 years (if we watch), which isn't nearly enough to properly give a damn.

[siron]

Originally posted by Sikander


You got trolled, but amusing response nonetheless.

The thread is a troll.

Can you give me a non-anglo american report (with some reputation pls) about these fouls containing your conspiracy theories?

And would you take European media reports about the SuperBowl seriously? No? Can you imagine how I feel about the ABC Coverage?

In fact, I heard that even Wynalda said he had rushed to judgement in his complaint. A first step back to the reality-based community.

[Seeker]

c'mon, team! We can beat the official thread!

[Thedrin]

Just to say that there were two important decisions in that match which were called incorrectly.

1) The Italians should have had a penalty in the dying minutes of the match - some blatant shirt pulling in the box (no diving either).

2) The free kick which resulted in the US's goal was given against a tackle made by an Italian. The tackle was fair. It shouldn't have been a free kick. This was right under a lines mans nose so he can be blamed for it.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by siron


The thread is a troll.

Can you give me a non-anglo american report (with some reputation pls) about these fouls containing your conspiracy theories?

And would you take European media reports about the SuperBowl seriously? No? Can you imagine how I feel about the ABC Coverage?

In fact, I heard that even Wynalda said he had rushed to judgement in his complaint. A first step back to the reality-based community.

Alright, now you are trolling yourself.

Please address someone who cares about the U.S. team.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by Thedrin
Just to say that there were two important decisions in that match which were called incorrectly.

1) The Italians should have had a penalty in the dying minutes of the match - some blatant shirt pulling in the box (no diving either).

2) The free kick which resulted in the US's goal was given against a tackle made by an Italian. The tackle was fair. It shouldn't have been a free kick. This was right under a lines mans nose so he can be blamed for it.

How about the Italian dive which led to the free kick, scoring Italy's only goal? Or better yet, the handball in the box by Italy? Yes, when it struck the Italian, it was incidental, but then the Italian swung his arm so the ball flew farther than it would have under a normal incidental contact.