F-16s to Iran or Cuba

[KrazyHorse]

Cost per airplane or number airplanes produced don't mean diddly anymore.

Yes, it does.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Serb
That's the plane!

Pray you never have to find out.

[Serb]

Pray yourself.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle
The F-22 can fly faster longer, has a larger payload, and has stealth.

Stealth is overrated. It is said that the Russians, the Brits, and probably some others also, have found ways to detact stealth planes.

Also, IIRC, the Serbs shot down a F-117. So somebody probably had a good look at it already.

[Agathon]

The F-22 is shaping up to be the PS3 of air superiority fighters.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


Stealth is overrated. It is said that the Russians, the Brits, and probably some others also, have found ways to detact stealth planes.

Also, IIRC, the Serbs shot down a F-117. So somebody probably had a good look at it already.

They shot it down with Soviet S-75 SAM which is, well, 50 years old.

[Serb]

F-117 designed to trick UHF radar, not VHF radar used in S-75 SAM complex.
Two years ago Russians introduced new "Nebo-U" digital phased array radar, which makes Spirits and Raptors a bunch of wasted money.

[Thorgal]

Originally posted by Harry Tuttle

You also compared the EF to the B-1 lancer. The B-1 Lancer was designed in the 70s, long before your EF was thought up. If it has the same ratio when comparing radar cross sections, well, cmon man, the B-1 is a fast attack bomber designed before stealth was stealth. The EF has the same ratio? Bad.

Wrong. Stealth properties are known since many years ago. SR-71 and U-2 were already designed to maintain a low radar signal. The B-1 incorporates Stealth technology widely. His radar profile is about a 2% of the B-52, Both planes being aproximately of the same size.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Serb
F-22, Eurofighter...childish toys.

That's the plane!

Do all your planes catch fire as the missle falls off, or just this one?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Thorgal

Wrong. Stealth properties are known since many years ago. SR-71 and U-2 were already designed to maintain a low radar signal. The B-1 incorporates Stealth technology widely. His radar profile is about a 2% of the B-52, Both planes being aproximately of the same size.

The B-1 was designed to fly "nap of the earth" to avoid radar. The main reason that its radar cross section is so much lower than the B-52 is because it is a supersonic plane, and hence streamlined heavily. Do you think they would have left those huge square intakes on the engines if they were serious about stealth?

[Thorgal]

That is not a missile but an huge unguided rocket.

[Serb]

Huge? You call that "huge"?

Well, THIS is the huge MISSILE (same plane):

[Serb]

Originally posted by Sikander


Do all your planes catch fire as the missle falls off, or just this one?

That's a defensive flamethrower mounted in the rear turret in action, silly.

[Serb]

Achtung!!!
Aliens are coming!!!

[Thorgal]

Originally posted by Serb
Huge? You call that "huge"?

Well, THIS is the huge MISSILE (same plane):

No. That is a MISSILE of medium size. The previous one was a huge aircraft unguided ROCKET (note the difference).

If you want show us a really huge MISSILE you should look for some image of the kh-20 (AS-3) Kangaroo for instance.