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  • A 757 weighs ten times as much and goes more than twice as fast as a B25.
    "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

    Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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    • At least you guys are actually thinking

      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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      • Your persistence got me to back out of my hard-line "don't even argue with him" doctrine.
        "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

        Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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        • Originally posted by Jaguar
          A 757 weighs ten times as much and goes more than twice as fast as a B25.
          And the twin towers were built nearly 40 years later with bigger planes and higher speeds in mind

          Point (which you missed) being designing for airplane collision has been around since before the Empire State Building was even built

          And the 1945 B-25 was probably a much bigger plane than was around in the 1930s

          Next ?
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • The towers aren't any larger than the Empire State Building, and they had to withstand an aircraft impact ~20 times greater (fuzzy math, but whatever, several orders of magnitude greater) than any skyscraper had faced before.
            "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

            Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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            • That's the official line and reasoning for the collapse yes


              Which various studies have not disproven. You have Scientific American and Popular Mechanics debunking conspiracy theories. You have NIST saying there is no evidence that there was a controlled demolition on the WTC buildings.

              What else do you need?!

              The only possible explination as to why you persist is that you are a loon. You and the guys who claim the moon landing was faked can hang out together.
              “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
              - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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              • Originally posted by Jaguar
                Your persistence got me to back out of my hard-line "don't even argue with him" doctrine.

                HIGHLIGHT POST OF THE THREAD


                Thank you for illustrating the line of thinking that is more dangerous to this country than any conspiracy theory could ever be
                We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                • Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                  That's the official line and reasoning for the collapse yes


                  Which various studies have not disproven. You have Scientific American and Popular Mechanics debunking conspiracy theories. You have NIST saying there is no evidence that there was a controlled demolition on the WTC buildings.

                  What else do you need?!

                  The only possible explination as to why you persist is that you are a loon. You and the guys who claim the moon landing was faked can hang out together.
                  I don't know, some of these people seem to have a problem with the official line, well add them to the loon list, they are just a small selection of people that bothered to list themselves on the site. Col. Bowman has 101 combat missions, maybe he got shot with lasers too much.



                  James H. Fetzer (FM)

                  Distinguished McKnight University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Minnesota, Duluth, a former Marine Corps officer, author or editor of more than 20 books, and co-chair of S9/11T

                  Andreas von Buelow (FM)

                  Former assistant German defense minister, director of the German Secret Service, minister for research and technology, and member of Parliament for 25 years

                  Robert M. Bowman (FM)

                  Former Director of the U.S. "Star Wars" Space Defense Program in both Republican and Democratic administrations, and a former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel with 101 combat missions



                  Morgan Reynolds (FM)

                  Texas A & M Professor Emeritus of Economics, former Chief Economist for the Department of Labor for President George W. Bush, and former Director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis

                  Diana Ralph (FM)

                  Associate Professor Carleton University School of Social Work. Author of Work and Madness: The Rise of Community Psychiatry


                  Daniel Orr (FM)

                  Professor Emeritus, Department of Economics, University of Illinois

                  George Nelson (FM)

                  Colonel, USAF (retired)

                  Raymond Munro (FM)

                  Professor of Theatre, Clark University

                  Richard McGinn (FM)

                  Associate Professor Emeritus of Linguistics and Southeast Asian Studies, Ohio University. Former chair of Linguistics (10 years) and Director of Southeast Asian Studies (4 years) at Ohio University


                  John McMurtry, Ph.D. (FM)

                  Professor of Philosophy, University Professor Emeritus Elect, University of Guelph, Fellow of the Royal Society of Canada, and the author of six books dealing with public policy issues

                  Steven Jones (FM)

                  Professor of Physics, Brigham Young University, co-chair of S9/11T and the creator of its home page and its forum
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • Originally posted by Ted Striker
                    HIGHLIGHT POST OF THE THREAD


                    Thank you for illustrating the line of thinking that is more dangerous to this country than any conspiracy theory could ever be
                    Bull****. Frankly, it's more dangerous to pay you guys any kind of attention, but your idiocy is so difficult to resist debunking.

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                    • Case in point

                      You'll learn someday though son
                      We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                      • Originally posted by Ted Striker
                        I don't know, some of these people seem to have a problem with the official line, well add them to the loon list, they are just a small selection of people that bothered to list themselves on the site. Col. Bowman has 101 combat missions, maybe he got shot with lasers too much.

                        A few university professors hold contrary opinions! OMG!

                        I challenge you to find ANY issue, from Jesus' existence to the alien experiments at Roswell, where there aren't professors who disagree with the vast majority.

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                        • Raymond Munro (FM)

                          Professor of Theatre, Clark University


                          Zounds! The Professor of Theatre at Clark University is on his side! No way we can win now!
                          "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                          Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                          • So what's the vast majority view on Jesus' existance?
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • I'm not sure of that, but I could easily find you one professor who believes in him and one who doesn't. What's your point?
                              "You're the biggest user of hindsight that I've ever known. Your favorite team, in any sport, is the one that just won. If you were a woman, you'd likely be a slut." - Slowwhand, to Imran

                              Eschewing silly games since December 4, 2005

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                              • That there actually was some dude named "Jesus" at some point circa 0 AD.

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