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  • #61


    page 2-20 gives daily ridership of "heavy rail" NA transit systems.

    NY and Mexico City (of which I was unaware) are by far the top two.

    Following them are: Montreal, Toronto, DC, Chicago and Boston (in that order). After that, you start to get into much smaller systems.

    edit: screw the otbot
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    • #62
      Originally posted by DanS


      Why not just make more lines and stations? Now that the system is operating at full capacity, they can now disentangle the system.

      I don't think they're going to double track it.
      I'm thinking double tracked/express lines for the airports and the heaviest commuter stations to help speed things up. An express line from someplace, say Metro Center or Rosslyn/Falls Church to Dulles in addition to commuter lines would help untangle tourist/airport traffic from commuter traffic. It would also be a boon for commuters from the densest/most populated areas allowing them to get in and out of DC more rapidly would help boost Metro traffic.
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      • #63
        I think they should keep things as simple as possible for now. Disentangle the lines. Run trains with greater frequency and speed. Run 8 car trains.

        Running trains at greater frequency would save almost as much time for most people as double tracking anyway.

        edit: screw the otbot.
        Last edited by DanS; April 9, 2006, 18:46.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse

          Following them are: Montreal, Toronto, DC, Chicago and Boston (in that order). After that, you start to get into much smaller systems.
          Won't be long before the DC metrorail surpasses Montreal and Toronto.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • #65
            Given that DC is projected to increase in population all of 28% in the next thirty years, good luck with that.

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            • #66
              DC or metro area?

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              • #67
                If you're talking the metro area, I don't believe your projection, considering that it has more than doubled in size in the last 30 years.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #68
                  DC. Metro area may grow more, but had hard time finding forecast quickly.

                  Also, given that there's still plenty of room in DC left over from white flight of 80s and 90s you'd have to wonder about the suburbs growing much more than city itself.
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                  • #69
                    Crosspost. Of course, I think you know that the city of DC is only about 10% of the metro area in any event. Much different dynamics than Baltimore.
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • #70
                      That metro area includes Baltimore, parts of WV etc.

                      It's a ridiculous overestimate. You should only include area served by metro (or foreseeable extensions of metro)
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                      • #71
                        It no longer includes Baltimore or the WV exurbs. DC metro is about 5 million. Baltimore metro is a little more than 2 million.

                        Edit: Oops, I mean the DC metro area is about 6 million. The city of DC is less than 10% of the total. Most of the population can be served with expansion of metrorail.
                        Last edited by DanS; April 9, 2006, 19:34.
                        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                        • #72
                          Here's a good rollover map of the DC area.



                          And the addition to arrive at the 6 million figure...

                          Last edited by DanS; April 9, 2006, 19:24.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #73
                            a) The one that doesn't include Baltimore is not 10 times the size of DC proper's population. It's around 7-8 times.

                            b) It's still ridiculously oversized. It's 5300 ****ing square miles in its new form for christ's sake.
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                            • #74
                              Kitty, the growth or lack of growth of the residential DC population is kind of irrelevant to a discussion of suburban needs. I wonder if they could already justify that train. Reston is just buttswamped. And needs better access to DC for oh...the last 30 years or so.

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                              • #75
                                Havin' trouble with your new math, dude. DC's pop is 572,000. The metro area is 5.9 million +.
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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