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I want my purple line!
Reagan National > Dulles anyhow.
Though when this gets done I'll probably fly out of Dulles more. Even with the metro it'll still be a haul down from Rockville. A few months back I took all public trans to Dulles (I even started a thread about it, heh). Bus to the metro, metro to Virginia, and then bus from there to the airport. Took forever.
I still demand the purple line!
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The politicians swore on a stack of bibles that the toll road would have tolls removed as soon as construction cost was done. 9 months after construction (1985), cost had been recovered. Several years ahead of schedule. The toll has never been removed and recently was raised.Comment
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$4 billion is fearsomely expensive for what the system will provide...
Edinburgh's always toying with the idea of trams. I'm opposed. Waste of money, IMO. There's a perfectly good heavy rail line through the south of the city that could be reactivated for a fraction of the cost of the proposed tram network. But trams are more 'European', apparently.Comment
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So I take it that you oppose this on principle? I respect that. That's why I would never vote for a congressman who supported term limits, but is staying past his time (as my Ohio congressman -- for whom I worked for a short time -- did).Originally posted by TCO
The politicians swore on a stack of bibles that the toll road would have tolls removed as soon as construction cost was done. 9 months after construction (1985), cost had been recovered. Several years ahead of schedule. The toll has never been removed and recently was raised.
On the other hand, I wasn't in the area in 1985 to hear the promises.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Originally posted by Sandman
But trams are more 'European', apparently.
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I agree that Reagan National is much nicer than Dulles, but National is more expensive, due to the lack of competition, which in turn is due to the limited number of gates and no room to grow.Originally posted by OzzyKP
I want my purple line!
Reagan National > Dulles anyhow.
Though when this gets done I'll probably fly out of Dulles more. Even with the metro it'll still be a haul down from Rockville. A few months back I took all public trans to Dulles (I even started a thread about it, heh). Bus to the metro, metro to Virginia, and then bus from there to the airport. Took forever.
I still demand the purple line!
The proposed purple line isn't metrorail is it?Last edited by DanS; April 9, 2006, 16:51.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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It's a seperate issue, but I think we need to look at how expectations are set and things are done in large PW projects. Having more transit out to Reston would benefit me personally. That said, I think a much simpler solution might be to get rid of toll lanes and all that stuff and just make the damn thing 14 lanes wide. The hard part is at 66 of course as you go into DC. But that is a hard part regardless (well...I guess Metro has an argument there.) Sorry, don't have my thoughts figured out.Originally posted by DanS
So I take it that you oppose this on principle? I respect that. That's why I would never vote for a congressman who supported term limits, but is staying past his time (as my Ohio congressman -- for whom I worked for a short time -- did).
On the other hand, I wasn't in the area in 1985 to hear the promises.
Oh...but on S95, I think that silly reversing HOV lane is a monstrosity. Pave more road, build a couple flyovers and just have a frigging 16 laner headed south.Comment
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No toll on the airport access road though.Originally posted by TCO
The politicians swore on a stack of bibles that the toll road would have tolls removed as soon as construction cost was done. 9 months after construction (1985), cost had been recovered. Several years ahead of schedule. The toll has never been removed and recently was raised.12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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I think transit between the airports and all the way into the city is probably needed. I don't have the data to back this up. Just a feel thing. but the Capitol area is just becoming huge.Comment
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What's the point of more lanes when the capacity to get off the highway won't change and no new bridges across the Potomac will be built?Originally posted by TCO
It's a seperate issue, but I think we need to look at how expectations are set and things are done in large PW projects. Having more transit out to Reston would benefit me personally. That said, I think a much simpler solution might be to get rid of toll lanes and all that stuff and just make the damn thing 14 lanes wide. The hard part is at 66 of course as you go into DC. But that is a hard part regardless (well...I guess Metro has an argument there.) Sorry, don't have my thoughts figured out.
Oh...but on S95, I think that silly reversing HOV lane is a monstrosity. Pave more road, build a couple flyovers and just have a frigging 16 laner headed south.
On the new line, I hope to god that they have the foresight to double-track the line so they can do express and commuter trains. That's one of the biggest mistakes that Metro made when they first built the system. That's why there aren't any express lines which would greatly ease commuter pressure on the system.If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.Comment
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No, there was never a toll there. It was there for decades and was called the world's longest driveway, because it led from DC out to a little used monstor way out airport. And they refused to let normal traffic on it. It's just in their psyche to do so. I'd much rather have the lanes all used by people and have planeriders have to plan a bit more ahead when it's rush hour. I think it's more efficient.Originally posted by KrazyHorse
No toll on the airport access road though.Comment
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I'd much rather have the lanes all used by people and have planeriders have to plan a bit more ahead when it's rush hour.
**** 'em. I use the access road occasionally and don't give a **** about any of those local *******s who are already clogging up the outer loop of 495...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Plus I get to drive as fast as I want on the access road because the cops are all busy watching the real 267...12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
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Re: Washington metrorail to be extended to Dulles airport
Originally posted by DanS
It's pretty amazing how fast the ridership has grown. The system opened in 1976, but already has the 2nd most trips (over 700,000 on many weekdays) of any system in the US -- behind, of course, the New York City subway. The system is experiencing some growing pains as it hits up against its design capacity.
[Toronto Transit Commission] carries approximately 1.4 million riders on an average business day; over eight million riders every week; over 400 million annually; and one billion riders every 30 months.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Washington.^-^ Of course, the TTC total includes buses and streetcars in addition to the subway, but still.
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