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From you I'll take that as a compliment.
Especially considering I do main arguments quite a lot... just not with utter loons.
Especially considering I do main arguments quite a lot... just not with utter loons.
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Yes, he has been relaying upon the open source wikipedia, which anyone can edit, for his numbers and then claiming that the numbers of Wall Street analysts and the BBC are rubbish because they don't match his wiki article.Originally posted by notyoueither
You're relying on a blog and impugning the BBC? You don't think they think about their sources and do a little more verification than 'pfff, that was a US govmint stat, it must be ****e'?
You are a wonder, techumseh.
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The blogger tells him what he wants to hear while the BBC and the Wall Street Analysts tell him the facts. Of course he prefers to hear what wants to hear.Originally posted by notyoueither
You prefer a blog to the BBC?
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And this is very typical of you, Oerdin. The more you are challenged, the more hysterical you get.Originally posted by Oerdin
Yes, he has been relaying upon the open source wikipedia, which anyone can edit, for his numbers and then claiming that the numbers of Wall Street analysts and the BBC are rubbish because they don't match his wiki article.
Just another typical day for techumseh.
The Centre for Media and Democracy site was not quoted by me as a source of oil production statistics at all, which you know perfectly well.
Anyone who has been following this thread knows that I have used the following sources for estimates of Venezuela's crude oil production: OPEC, the Petroleum Centre for the Latin American and Caribbean Regions, and now the CIA.
Your sources are a biased private intellegence outfit, a doctor who is into investing, and a media outlet.
It might be an open question as to who the loon is.Comment
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In the future we will all have replicators and no shortages anywhere of anything anyway.Originally posted by Oerdin
It will take time for these and other fields to come online and even when they do demand in Asia will keep pushing up prices but those prices tend to be very cyclical and if Chavez gets hit by one of those down periods then his economic mismanagement is going to be made clear to everyone.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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And Kid just closed that question with his post immediately below yours.Originally posted by techumseh
It might be an open question as to who the loon is.
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And Kid just closed that question with his post immediately below yours.
That was....a thing of beauty.
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Three sources which are especially likely to simply regurgitate whatever numbers Venezuela gives them (without any acknowledgement of Chavez's PR stake in output numbers, or any independent expert analysis of possible discrepancies).Originally posted by techumseh
Anyone who has been following this thread knows that I have used the following sources for estimates of Venezuela's crude oil production: OPEC, the Petroleum Centre for the Latin American and Caribbean Regions, and now the CIA.
Why is it any source with "ties" to the U.S. government or MNCs must be deliberately advancing their agenda, but the Venezuelan government's own stats are undisputed fact?Comment
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There is also a political issue to consider with the OPEC numbers. If a country in OPEC pumps to much then they get fined for breaking the quota and if a company pumps to little then they lose a portion of their quota and other OPEC members get to pump more to make up the difference. It seems the easy choice is to simply lie about the numbers you pumped instead of getting fined or losing quota space.
Lord knows countries like Saudi Arabia have exceeded their quota numbers for years and years but if you look at the official OPEC numbers then Saudi Arabia has said it never exceeded its quota. In short they lie on their books for political reasons but everyone knows it is a faked game and that's why the financial companies all hire analysts to figure out what the real numbers are.
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Well I was just taking Oerdin's optimism to it' logical conclusion.Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
And Kid just closed that question with his post immediately below yours.
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It's not optimism to point out that 75% of the earth's surface still hasn't been explored for oil and no one has bothered to look for deep oil. There is just to much cheap and easy oil near the surface to bother with that expensive stuff.
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I think a good analysis requires more than that and you aren't qualified, but neither am I. Anyway, if nothing changes the prices isn't likely to fall. The rate of technicological advancement is unknown, so it's all speculation for us. That's all my point was.Originally posted by Oerdin
To note the historical trend and then note that there is no reason to believe the historical trend will suddenly stop is just good analysis.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Originally posted by Oerdin
One might reasonably ask why Venezuela's oil output keeps falling. Could it be that the national oil company has had all of the competitant technicats removed and replaced by incompetant politicos whose sole qualification is their fanatical loyalty to the supreme autocrat?
Could it be that the previous managers of the companies decided that they wouldn't work with the first popular government in Venezuelan history merely because unlike the previous autocrats, he actually intended to (and has) genuinely helped the average Venezuelan? No, that can't have had anything to do with it.
Maybe someday Oerdin will stop siding with the rich and side with the majority of people in this world.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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That's like saying that there is little conflict in a family that abuses children. Of course not, the weak side is in no position to fight back.Originally posted by Arrian
there is very little real labor strife.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Could it be that the previous managers of the companies decided that they wouldn't work with the first popular government in Venezuelan history merely because...he (Chavez) ...has genuinely helped the average Venezuelan? No, that can't have had anything to do with it.
I agree with the last sentence of this, and Che, you're slipping bro. I've seen you come up with MUCH stronger arguments than this. This is....weak pea soup. Have you been on vacation?
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