Hetero...but up to what price?

[Spec]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


To be honest, I wouldn't have sex with a girl (I didn't want to) for money either.

Jon Miller

Hell, I would...depending on the amount...

JM you're too nice...Maybe that's why you dont get laid. Just a thought. No offense.


Spec.

[Verto]

50,000$ would sound pretty convincing.

Hell, with my current financial state, 10,000 is convincing.

[Jon Miller]

Originally posted by Spec


Hell, I would...depending on the amount...

JM you're too nice...Maybe that's why you dont get laid. Just a thought. No offense.


Spec.

I can be mean at times.

I guess maybe I am to idealistic (at times) about sex, not sure.

JM

[Jon Miller]

And at first I wrote "I wouldn't have sex with a girl I didn't like". But than I released that if she was hot, and coming on to me, that I might.

I don't think money would have anything to do with it though.

Jon Miller

[alva]

Originally posted by Jon Miller


To be honest, I wouldn't have sex with a girl (I didn't want to) for money either.

Jon Miller

C'mon dude, think about it...
You really would say no if a girl offers you the equivalent of 5 years of pay, to perform a couple of minutes...(heck, let's make it a night)?

I'm sure I'be able to rationalise myself out of it and silence my conscience. (not that I would need so in the first palce.)

[Spec]

My thought exactly alva

Spec.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
hmm, how many posts till it is $10 and a pack of chewing gum?

JM

Looks like "15".

[Spec]

How about you JohnT? How much for your ass?

Spec.

[JohnT]

Is that an offer, Spec?

[Spec]

Spec.

[Pekka]

I guess you'd really have to have the offer so you could think about it. And there are multiple factors affecting your decision making. Is the guy freaking ugly, not that it matters but it still matters a little. An ugly can be ugly! Will it be safe enough? Who is going to knwo about it, etc etc etc..

It doesn't make you gay to do it though. I don't even think it makes you gay to try out sex with another dude. If you like it, if you want it then you're gay. THat simple. Or would you call a guy bisexual if he once had sex with a woman, hated it, and ever since had sex only with guys? Of course he's gay, not bisexual.

[Jon Miller]

Yeah, I agree Pekka.

I don't really care about whether it is male or female, I just am against the exchange of sex for money on general principle. (although I have gone to Strip Clubs, but I didn't have sex there, and I am unsure about whether it was right to go to them)

JM
(I did refuse the lapdance)


(although I did worse than a lapdance one time a stripper came to my house) (I was involved in some of the 'party tricks')

[Pekka]

party tricks! :doitnow:

Nah, I don't see any problems going to a strip club. As long as the girls are doing OK that is. They're making good money dancing and showing their body for folks, there's no sex involved, I just see no problems with this no matter how I look at it. If they were starving and paid in burgers, then it would be a problem for me. But they aren't, except maybe in some exceptional cases.

Just like with prostitution, if they girls are OK with that in terms of they like the money, they are not harrased and 'forced' to do it, because they like the money, I have no problems with that either. But there's more cases to this one than in the previous one. Lots of them are abused so... that's a bit different, the default settings that is. I would not go to a prostitute. Never say never but at this point, I feel like I might regret it, from my own point of view, which is not that I think exchanging money for sex is wrong.. I think people do that all the time, you buy dinner, you go to clubs, what ever, you're shelling money, and many are doing in hopes of sex, and in many cases it's a one night stand, and I just dont' see the big difference in those cases.

But yeah.. that's about it. There's many views to this, mine isn't the truth. Just how I see it. It might change when I have more money

[Pekka]

Sorry Spec, this is a bit out of this topic but I talked about prostitution, I would not deny a person, woman or man, the opportunity to go to a prostitute if there's no other way they can have sex. There's lots of folks out there who aren't able to have sex even if they are nice people. Maybe they have some disability and that keeps them from even trying but they have the same needs so I feel if that person wants to have sex, I would just see that is OK. And if the prostitute is willing too, that might be a great deal for both, provided that the prossie gets paid and isn't forced.

I saw a program about these prossies who do this kind of.. work that they aren't normal prossies. They provide these intimacy services to lonely men, I think that was totally cool. It's not hardcore abusive sex, it's where the customers want to feel intimacy and they provide that and are sensual and careful that they make it an emotional experience. Kind of like making love but not exactly. Why would someone deny this opportunity from someone who is lonely and it might be that person's only chance to feel those things? No problem if you ask me, break a leg

furthermore, I have great respect for prossies who do that. It's difficult work but important. They put on a big effort to give those feelings of intimacy and emotions to lonely people. I think they should get a medal, a raise and a pension from the state. Some of them install wheel chair access and stuff, because many are disabled people, but not all of course. It's love for sale, but it's not cheap like normal prostitution. They shouldn't even be called prostitues but social workers who do the full 9 yards. Most times, I learned, is that they just like to talk, give a back massage, and hold hands and stuff like that.

[Jon Miller]

A prostitute isn't going to give you the intimacy that you wish for.

JM