Men Want Say in Unplanned Pregnancy!

[GePap]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Why should a man be forced to pay for a child he did not want, and never wanted?

Why do women get ample choices to correct a mistake they make, but men get none?

Because for the fetus to live it must gestate for nine months inside the woman's body.

Why is that so freaking hard to understand?

Men CANT have the same reproductive choices women have because they don't have the same reproductive role women do.

[GePap]

Originally posted by notyoueither
It boils down to Dads are not fathers, they are wallets. A modern version of slavery to the interests of the state and the whim of women they have known.

If these guys want to be fathers, then askt he court for custody of the child, and then they can go from being wallets to being fathers.

As for "slavery", that is utter nonsense.

There is a reason why chi9ld support laws were made, and it was because irresponsible men were leaving children and women destitute due to their irreponsibility.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Sex wasnt invented for the pleasures only. Last i checked it was the main way of reproducing. All i have been saying is if you dont want kids dont put urself in the situation that one appears. One should always take half of what is said as true and never play to chance.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Apocalypse
Alright then, why else are people here but to procreate? There are no other clear functions really.

People are hear for no other reason but to procreate, since we are life forms, and life's only "function" is to create new life. However, our mode of procreation is very dependent upon social interaction. Human infants are born half-baked because of our brain size and they don't finish completing "normal" gestation until they are around nine months. They require enormous amounts of resources.

Going around and tryiong to impregnate everyone woman you can find is counter-productive to our mode of reproduction, since it reduces the amount of resouces which can be expended upon any individual child. This is why most societies where this shotgun method of reproduction by men is practiced generally have much shorter lifespans than those societies where couples restrict themselves to one or two children.

Those men who go around knocking up anyone they can find and walking away from their responsibilities incur a cost on the rest of society, since we have decided that we need to step in to help those children since their circumstance of birth is not their fault. This, however, means that there are less resources for our own children. These ****ers are making us take care of their babies (we are being cuckolded). Since we are cheapskates, this ends up biting us in the ass when ten+ years later these children become preditors upon society and we must then shell out up the wazoo to police and imprison them repeatedly.

If fathers are forced to take care of their own children, we are all better off. If they don't want to take care of their kids, they have a choice not to go bareback.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Berserker/

Controlling the fruits of my labour is controlling my body.

/Berserker

Neither you nor I buy that argument. Anyway, someone will be involuntarily paying for those children assuming it isn't being put up for adoption. We pay taxes.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Why do women get ample choices to correct a mistake they make, but men get none?

Because women carry the baby. Until you can get around that fact of biology, you're stuck with the system, unless you want us to go back to the infinately worse one of letting children grow up in horrid poverty.

[Mrs. Tuberski]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Why just men?

NYE i have said before on the last page birth control is the responsibilty of both parties to asure one is covered. If it is me that doesnt want kids then mainly mine, i am the one to choose that i am covered.
Men are not considered wallets as far as i see it. If they dont want to be a father then dont but, you should till have to pay for what u helped to create wheter or not u wanted to or not. Man or a woman.

[MRT144]

i think there are two things at play here.

1. the idea that men and women are exactly the same in their responsibility and role in creating children, and less so their role after the birth.

are some of you that ignorant?

2. there is not enough emphasis on getting shined up. get on the job and slob on the knob, my dick taste better than corn on the cob.

[DaShi]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
People are hear for no other reason but to procreate, since we are life forms, and life's only "function" is to create new life.

That's not exactly correct. Life's ultimate purpose is to achieve a greater state of enlightenment. Procreation simply assists in that goal by creating more opportunities.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Neither you nor I buy that argument. Anyway, someone will be involuntarily paying for those children assuming it isn't being put up for adoption. We pay taxes.

Exactly, and if support for unwanted children is such an issue we should address it collectively, not by indentured servitude of unwilling individuals AKA slavery.

[chequita guevara]

It's not slavery to be forced to take care of your own genetic material.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by GePap

right back at you, since you can't seem to come to grips with the basic issue.

[MRT144]

i want to see what the alternative is to not forcing child support. im sure we will be living in a utopian society if no fathers were coerced into support.

i tend to believe the social cost of forcing child support is far lower than the social cost of making single mothers and fatherless children financially strapped.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
It's not slavery to be forced to take care of your own genetic material.

How do you figure?

You have a special definition of 'unwilling'?

[Mrs. Tuberski]

on the same subject wasnt there a court case where a father won the right to have the woman he impregnated force her to have this child? I saw a movie onthis a while back