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  • #31
    "A serious question for Muslims ... is this: 'does Western free speech allow working on issues like America and Israel's crimes or an incident like the Holocaust or is this freedom of speech only good for insulting the holy values of divine religions?"'

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    • #32
      kinda weird how she answered herself while supporting jail time. Can you teach logic? She needs some education

      Hitler slaughtered gypsies and slavs and other groups but we never hear about those holocausts.



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      • #33
        Well, we do, but the Jews were the main target, both rhetorically and statistically, so they get most of the attention.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by VetLegion
          About 100 million people in modern Europe can go to jail for 3 years just for denying official history. It makes you think, doesn't it.

          Did you just pull that number randomly out of your ass?
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          • #35
            Hitler killed way more Slavs than Jews, but this is hardly mentioned anywhere.
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            • #36
              Hitler slaughtered gypsies and slavs and other groups but we never hear about those holocausts.


              Hey, the jews have more money and better movie makers.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                Hitler killed way more Slavs than Jews, but this is hardly mentioned anywhere.
                In the Holocaust (as opposed to the war deaths in Stalingrad, etc.)? I always read that eleven million died in total, of which about six were Jews.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Urban Ranger
                  Hitler killed way more Slavs than Jews, but this is hardly mentioned anywhere.


                  That's because they were murdered with bombs and starvation, not with death camps.

                  Several things to consider: the Slavs were our enemies during the Cold War.

                  There aren't that many Roma in the West, and those that are, aren't integrated with the rest of society.

                  Gays still have trouble getting civil rights, nuff said.

                  Commies are our enemies.

                  No one likes to theink about the insane and mentally handicapped anyway.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MrFun



                    Did you just pull that number randomly out of your ass?


                    Add up Germans and Austrians and let me know what you get.

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                    • #40
                      Why just those countries?
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                      • #41
                        What does total population of Germany and Austria have to do with the potential number of people that can be arrested?

                        GASP!! OMFG!!! ALL GERMANS AND AUSTRIANS ARE TeH HOLOCAUST DENIERS!!!!
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Elok


                          In the Holocaust (as opposed to the war deaths in Stalingrad, etc.)? I always read that eleven million died in total, of which about six were Jews.
                          Only six?

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                          • #43


                            Author and academic Deborah Lipstadt, who Irving unsuccessfully sued for libel in the UK in 2000 over claims that he was a Holocaust denier, said she was dismayed at the verdict.

                            "I am not happy when censorship wins, and I don't believe in winning battles via censorship... The way of fighting Holocaust deniers is with history and with truth," she told the BBC News website.


                            Lipstadt (I've met her by the way, great person)
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Colon™
                              Why just those countries?
                              It's illegal to deny the holocaust in other countries too?

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                              • #45
                                Yeah, there's a list in Gangerolf's link. I think you'll have to double your figure.
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