Iraqi insurgent groups confident of victory - Report.

[techumseh]

An election organized by an invading and occupying power, and held under their bayonets has no validity. It's meaningless. The struggle against the foreign invader is proceeding and will be successful. The real political process will then begin.

[Imran Siddiqui]

[techumseh]

Very clever. But stop believing your own propaganda.

[PLATO]

Haha...Hard to know where to even start. I guess that the best thing to do is to just talk about how pro US soooooo many of those new officials are.

[techumseh]

Well go ahead then.

[PLATO]

Here is a good little article from global security detailing the parties. There are many that are anti-US.

[techumseh]

So, I'm confused. Nevermind the link to
Radio free Europe on your linked site - it looks like a CIA recruiting site to me - what are you saying? That the "elected" Iraqi representatives are predominantly pro-US or anti-US?

[techumseh]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Hey Imran. Could you break the argument down a bit for me? Just so I can respond and all. Thanks.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by techumseh
So, I'm confused. Nevermind the link to
Radio free Europe on your linked site - it looks like a CIA recruiting site to me - what are you saying? That the "elected" Iraqi representatives are predominantly pro-US or anti-US?

That there is a wealth of both and thus the basis for a free election. The site actually has links to all the parties own websites, btw...assuming you took the time to look.

[techumseh]

Originally posted by PLATO


That there is a wealth of both and thus the basis for a free election. The site actually has links to all the parties own websites, btw...assuming you took the time to look.

Did YOU take the time to look? Almost all the "links" are actually biased descriptions written by the authors (CIA) of the site. Few links to the actual web sites of the parties exist or work.

Here's an example:

Al-Sadr II Movement
Led by firebrand Shi'a cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, the movement has emerged as perhaps the most militant anti-American force in Iraq. Many members are young, disenfranchised Shi'a attracted by the cleric's charisma and firebrand style of preaching. Al-Sadr is the son of the late Muhammad Sadiq al-Sadr, who was gunned down, presumably by Saddam Hussein's men, along with Muqtada's two brothers, in 1999. Fiercely nationalist, al-Sadr's military wing, the Imam Al-Mahdi Army, has actively resisted U.S.-led occupation efforts; various tallies have put its numbers as several-thousand strong, although exact figures are presently unavailable. The Mahdi Army's mouthpiece is the "Ansar Al-Mahdi" newspaper, which is edited by Ahmad Al-Mutayri.

"Firebrand", "mouthpiece" - these are the words of a propagandist. His father was "gunned down".... "presumably by Saddam Hussien's men." That explains why he's allied with the Baathists, I guess. Your site, sir, is a crock!

[techumseh]

dp

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by techumseh
So, I'm confused. Nevermind the link to
Radio free Europe on your linked site - it looks like a CIA recruiting site to me - what are you saying? That the "elected" Iraqi representatives are predominantly pro-US or anti-US?

A CIA recruiting site would have links to anti-occupation websites?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_reconstruction.htm

Anti-Occupation

* antiwar.com
* Antiwar Movement @ Axis of Logic
* Bring Them Home Now
* Citizen Soldier
* Coalition for a Realistic Foreign Policy
* Electronic Iraq

Cost of the War in Iraq
$241,965,822,915
To see more details, click here.

Congress appropriated approximately
$56 billion in Apr 2003
$72 billion in Nov 2003
$25 billion in May 2004
$153 billion total to date $59 billion requested Feb 2005 for FY2005
$85 billion estimated for FY2006

[Drake Tungsten]

If you do, and Iraq collapses, then you're a bunch of good for nothing pussies.

True dat.

[techumseh]

Imran: Aside from the links, which any site seeking credibility would require, the content of the actual site is highly baised in favor of the American occupation and it's supporters.

But never mind the site, which is a side issue. Why do you dismiss as "stupid" the argument that an election process imposed by an occupying foriegn power is illegitimate?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
They should be. We're going to pull out.

And leave a sticky mess to be cleaned up...






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