CanPol: Race to the Finish

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Agathon

People falling for economic prosperity and social harmony... THE FOOLS!!!!!

Ralph Klein for God Emperor!

[notyoueither]

Incidently, did you count seperatism in Quebec pushing 50% as 'social harmony'?

[Agathon]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Incidently, did you count seperatism in Quebec pushing 50% as 'social harmony'?

How many years have they been threatening that? Yawn....

They just do it to piss off the English pigs.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by notyoueither

Fact is the Liberals are not campaigning against the current Tories, or their policies.

It's got nothing to do with what the Liberal are selling. It has everything to do with what the Conservatives are pitching.

The Conservative policies have simply failed to attract many Canadains. Harper has failed to convince a majority of Canadians that he can be an effective leader, despite his make over in this election.

The support for the Conservatives is largely an anti-Liberal stand.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Agathon


How many years have they been threatening that? Yawn....

They just do it to piss off the English pigs.

I suppose the fact that we've had Rene before excuses the current ruling party resurrecting the beast as a serious threat on the national stage, or not...

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Tingkai


It's got nothing to do with what the Liberal are selling. It has everything to do with what the Conservatives are pitching.

The Conservative policies have simply failed to attract many Canadains. Harper has failed to convince a majority of Canadians that he can be an effective leader, despite his make over in this election.

The support for the Conservatives is largely an anti-Liberal stand.

That's why the Liberals led at the outset and Tories gained as they put out their policy, yes?

That's why when the Tories crashed the gates in Quebec just before Christmas, federalists there reacted to Tory policy by dumping the Liberals, yes?

That's why the numbers for the Tories increased everywhere (including Ontario) until Martin got his negative game in order, yes?

Anti-Liberal stand, indeed. Damn straight! But not before the Tories showed reasons that they should be given the mandate.

[notyoueither]

So now Martin is clawing back everything he can. He hasn't seen a smear that is beneath him.

Martin may pull it off. It would be the miracle of January, or St. Paul's Day, or something.

It would also be a very sad day. A day where a campaign willing to go to any level, tell any lie, was rewarded with a national mandate.

Martin's totally lost it. He's gone off the rails.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by notyoueither

Anti-Liberal stand, indeed. Damn straight! But not before the Tories showed reasons that they should be given the mandate.

The Conservative have not made significant gains based on their policy. Conservative policies failed to win over voters in the last election and are failing to do so in this election.

The switch from Liberal support to the Conservatives is a reflection of the Liberal scandals and a poorly run campaign.

Nothing that the Conservatives have promised has struck a cord with a majority of Canadians.

If anything, Canadians are very reluctantly supporting the Conservatives.

[Uncle Sparky]

Wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay back in the early '80s, I hung out with a young Steve Harper as part of an apolitical youth organization. Everyone outside of Alberta thought he ( and most of the other Albertans) were "scary".

Remember ( for you old farts) the early '80s were pretty liberal (small l), the Albertans' in the group were all very Christian and very very socially conservative, including Harper.

The world has become more conservative but I still don't think Canada has caught up to that bunch. I'm still hoping for a minority government...

... I intend to drink heavily for the next couple of weeks...

None the less, Canadians remember to vote on Monday !

[notyoueither]

Trudeau was a social conservative compared to you, Sparky.

[notyoueither]

But yes, I suggest the hard left hit the bottle. The anti-Christ is coming, afterall.

[Flinx]

Seat Prediction

Here are my seat predictions based solely on polling conducted by The Strategic Counsel between Jan 16 and Jan 21 (n=3000) for CTV and The Globe & Mail

Canada ......68 143 35 62  0
BC ...........4  21 11  0  0
AB............0  28  0  0  0
SK MB.........2  22  4  0  0
ON...........44  45 17  0  0
QC............3  10  0 62  0
NB NS PE NL..12  17  3  0  0

...and yes I think the Liberals will get more than 3 seats in Quebec.

The NDP vote seems to be rising slightly in the last days of the campaign. Does this mean that people are accepting Jack's call and 'lending their vote?' Could this mean that people want the NDP to hold the balance of power in a Conservative minority government?

Feel free to all you like.

[Flinx]

My 2¢

Originally posted by Tingkai
The Conservative have not made significant gains based on their policy. Conservative policies failed to win over voters in the last election and are failing to do so in this election.

The switch from Liberal support to the Conservatives is a reflection of the Liberal scandals and a poorly run campaign.

Nothing that the Conservatives have promised has struck a cord with a majority of Canadians.

If anything, Canadians are very reluctantly supporting the Conservatives.

This is my sense of things too. The Liberals are being put in the penalty box told to clean themselves up. People do not seem to trust the Conservatives and the NDP 100% and so they are being given a chance to prove themselves and a more decisive decision will be made in the next election i.e. their vote will go up or down in the next election based on how they perform after January 23.

[Flinx]

Seat Prediction

Here are my seat predictions based solely on polling conducted by The Strategic Counsel between Jan 19 and Jan 22 (n=2500) for CTV and The Globe & Mail

Canada ......65 131 50 62  0 >>> 75 126 50 57  0
BC ...........7  13 16  0  0
AB............0  28  0  0  0
SK MB.........1  23  4  0  0
ON...........40  44 22  0  0
QC............3  10  0 62  0 >>> 13   5  0 57  0
NB NS PE NL..11  13  8  0  0


Remember it is purely a mathematical model!
Feel free to all you like.

[DanS]

Interesting. Last time I checked in on this race (a couple months ago), the liberals looked like they were going to win handily. Now the opposition appears to be cruising to victory...