Air marshals shoot would-be bomber

[Berzerker]

uh oh, no one has come forward to say they heard the guy mention a bomb. Its looking like this guy just got off the plane in such a hurry he attracted the attention of the marshals and by the time they caught up with him he didn't even know he was being chased.

[DRoseDARs]

As I've been saying, this "He said he had a bomb" story the authorities are giving doesn't add up unless the other passengers confirm he said such a thing. He supposedly said (or would that be screamed?) this while mere inches away from the ears of numerous other passengers... and none of them heard him say it?

[Dinner]

Is that true? It doesn't make sense that the air marshalls would just off and shoot someone so he must have said something.

[Dinner]

Should be an easy one.

[Dinner]

Slightly more obscure.

[Dinner]

Another one which is slightly off the beaten track.

[Dinner]

Yet another tank.

[Dinner]

****. Wrong thread. Will some mod move those to the correct thread?

[Jon Miller]

I was just going to mention something about tank threads being the borg

JM

[DRoseDARs]

Apparently, one of the passengers is now confirming that he DID NOT hear the word "bomb" until the FBI questioned him after the incident. None of them seem to have heard him say, "I have a bomb." All they seem to have heard was the wife screaming her husband was ill and the air marshalls screaming for him to get on the ground (he had a fannypack across his stomach, so lying flat on the floor would be impossible).

Edit: Not entirely certain where he was shot, so removed that part. The rest still stands.

[Dinner]

Supposedly he ran off the plane and was shot on the tarmac.

[DRoseDARs]

If the plane was at the terminal and the people were boarding from an elevated boom like all the airports I've been to, how the bloody hell did he get down to the tarmac?

[Dinner]

Not sure but that is what NPR reported.

[MOBIUS]

Oh goody!

This sounds just like our police shooting the brazilian 8 times in the head 'because he was a terrorist', and we all know what became of that once the dust settled...

Interesting all the morons coming out of the woodwork rushing to congratulate the air marshalls on a 'job well done' when nobody even knows the truth yet.

Even with the basic facts this whole story is highly sus, just like the Stockwell murder was which I got abused for saying so then...

So this guy with 'the bomb' in his hand lugguage, which obviously hadn't been security checked (though I can believe that one as security was more intent on checking my sandals twice, instead of my bag with the laptop in a couple of years back! ), decided to 'use his bomb' after the plane landed - but not only that, he thought it would be a great idea to run into the walkway away from his 'victims'...?

Hardly the behaviour of a bomber intent on maximum carnage, but more that of a nutter - evidently mad people in the US are open season after 9/11 and most people on poly think this is a good thing...

Why is it that the stupid people get to have the guns?

Let's see if this comes out just like it did in Stockwell...

[MOBIUS]

White House backs air marshals' actions

Not looking good...

The fact that the White House is backing them is a kiss of death! You know, after WMDs, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, Torture Flights etc

However, no other witness has publicly concurred with that account. Only one passenger recalled Alpizar saying, "I've got to get off, I've got to get off," CNN's Kathleen Koch reported.

Really, since when did "get off" equal "bomb", surely if he was running up and down the plane yelling "I've got a bomb", more passengers would have heard it.

"She was just saying her husband was sick, her husband was sick," said passenger Alan Tirpak. When the woman returned, "she just kept saying the same thing over and over, and that's when we heard the shots."

Tirpak said he didn't hear Alpizar say anything.

Another passenger, Mary Gardner of Orlando, said she also overheard Buechner. "I heard her say, 'He's bipolar. He doesn't have his medicine,'" Gardner recalled. ( Watch passenger's account: 'Something going on wasn't right' -- 3:21)

Gardner said that the couple had quarreled before the shooting.

Ellen Sutliff, who said she sat near Alpizar on the flight into Miami from Quito, Ecuador, described him as agitated even then. His wife kept coaxing him, saying, " 'We just have to get through customs. Please, please help me get through this,' " according to Sutliff.

" 'We're going to be home soon, and everything will be all right,' " Sutliff quoted the wife as saying.

So that's at least three passengers mentioning his agitation/mental problems - but no one for the bomb yet.

er Mike Beshears recalled Alpizar running off the plane clutching a bag, chased by a man in a Hawaiian shirt.

That man turned out to be one of the two air marshals.

Great disguise! I think we should let him off for his imagination alone!

rpak, Beshears said he did not hear Alpizar say anything. "He just was in a hurry and exited the plane," he said.

Oh dear, wanting to leave plane 2; Bomb threat 0!

lpizar ran off the plane, his wife pursued him part of the way down the aisle, then returned to her seat saying her husband was sick and she needed to get his bags, Beshears said.

"After she passed back toward her seat ... a number of shots rang out -- at least five, up to six, shots rang out," Beshears recalled.

At least 5-6!? Didn't the marshalls say only 2-3?

This has 'Stockwell' written all over it!