"The War on Christmas"

[Bosh]

OMG! Teh president is trying to destroy teh christmas!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/06/AR2005120601900.html

This is such a stupid issue

[GePap]

The funny bit is that the Pilgrims hated Chrismas because ito them it was a papist and pagan holiday, and the Commonwealth of Massachussets actually banned its celebration for seevral decades in the 1600's.

What use do REAL christians have for that "holly day?"

And what is up with the red santa? Whjy aren;t the fundies demanding that this politically correct character with pagan overtones be turned again into St. Nicholas, and dress in his correct clothing, the robes of a bishop??

Idiots.

[Ramo]

Teh Jon Stewart couldn't do any better.

[Berzerker]

I always thought "Happy Holidays" was meant to incorporate "Merry Christmas" and "Happy New Year" into a single greeting.

And all the other celebrations of the winter solstice and the return of the sun.

Boycotting businesses because they discriminate based on race seems valid, boycotting businesses because they dont say what you want them to say seems immature.

Btw, O'Reilly is making this a big deal. Not one show on Randy Duke Cunningham, only 18 days to Christmas though. So O'Reilly was griping about Happy Holidays and Keith Olberman had his people visit his website only to find Happy Holidays used extensively. O'Reilly's people changed it the next day.

[Drake Tungsten]

Thank god Japan still has proper respect for Christmas.

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by GePap
The funny bit is that the Pilgrims hated Chrismas because ito them it was a papist and pagan holiday, and the Commonwealth of Massachussets actually banned its celebration for seevral decades in the 1600's.

What use do REAL christians have for that "holly day?"

And what is up with the red santa? Whjy aren;t the fundies demanding that this politically correct character with pagan overtones be turned again into St. Nicholas, and dress in his correct clothing, the robes of a bishop??

Idiots.

OTOH the Anglicans eventually came to love the holiiday. Remeber Charles Dickinson? It's apparent that by the mid-nineteenth century Christmas had already become an elaborate holiday complete with feasting, gift giving and making whoopie.

The red costume of Santa in the US today is very similar to the costume given to him by the Dutch. Remember that bishops can wear red vestments. The Dutch Sinter Klaus sometimes wore a red bishops miter, which is somewhat similar to the red cap used today.

[GhengisFarb™]

I don't think Happy Holidays has to do with Christianity or non-Christianity. There are several holidays around this time, Christmas, Hannaka, New Years. Americans use Happy Holidays because we are LAZY.

[Bosh]

O'Reilly is insane:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200512070010

he's going to 'bring horror into the world" of people who oppose Christmas

[Berzerker]

So this is the same thing as Christians thinking the term "holiday" is inclusive of everything except Christianity, right?

Imagine you're a big fan of George Washington and celebrate his birthday and all of a sudden his birthday is moved and joined together as "President's Day". Well, even bigger fans of Jesus (so we're told) are upset that his "birthday" is being consolidated into happy holidays.

[Odin]

Didn't O'Reilly invite AQ to fly a plane into the Coit Tower a few weeks ago?

Why does O'Reilly hate America?

[alva]

Office Chirstmas Party

FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: December 1
RE: Christmas Party

I'm happy to inform you that the company Christmas Party will take place on December 23, starting at noon, in the banquet room at Luigi's Open Pit Barbecue. No host bar, but plenty of eggnog! We'll have a small band playing traditional carols... feel free to sing along. And, don't be surprised if our CEO shows up dressed as Santa Claus!

A Christmas tree will be lit at 1:00 P.M. Exchange of gifts among employees can be done at that time; however, no gift should be over $10.00 to make the giving of gifts easy for everyone's pockets. This gathering is only for employees! A special announcement will be made by our CEO at that time!

Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Patty

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FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: December 2
RE: Holiday Party

In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognize that Chanukah is an important holiday which often coincides with Christmas, though unfortunately not this year. However, from now on we're calling it our "Holiday Party." The same policy applies to employees who are celebrating Kwanzaa at this time. There will be no Christmas tree and no Christmas carols sung. We will have other types of music for your enjoyment.

Happy now?

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

Patty

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FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: December 3
RE: Holiday Party

Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous requesting a non-drinking table ....You didn't sign your name. I'm happy to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads, "AA Only," you wouldn't be anonymous anymore. How am I supposed to handle this?

Somebody????

Forget about the gifts exchange, no gift exchange is allowed since the union members feel that $10.00 is too much money, and executives believe $10.00 is very little for a gift. NO GIFT EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.

Patty

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FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: December 7
RE: Holiday Party

What a diverse group we are! I had no idea that December 20 begins the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinking during daylight hours. There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how a luncheon this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim employees'beliefs. Perhaps Luigi's can hold off on serving your meal until the end of the party (the days are so short this time of year), or else package everything for take home in little foil swans. Will that work?

Meanwhile, I've arranged for members of Overeaters Anonymous to sit farthest from the dessert buffet. Pregnant women will get the table closest to the restrooms. Gays are allowed to sit with each other. Lesbians do not have to sit with gay men; each gender will have their own table. To the person asking permission to cross dress, no cross dressing allowed. We will have booster seats for short people. Low-fat food will be available for those on a diet. We cannot control the salt used in the food thus we suggest for those people with blood pressure problems to taste first. There will be fresh fruits as dessert for diabetics since the restaurant is unable to supply "no sugar" desserts.

Sorry!

Did I miss anything?

Patty

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FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
Date: December 9
RE: Holiday Party

People, people! Nothing sinister was intended by having our CEO dress up ike Santa Claus! Even if the anagram of "Santa" does happen to be "Satan," there is no evil connotation to our own "little man in a red suit." It's a tradition, folks, like sugar shock at Halloween, or family feuds over the Thanksgiving turkey, or broken hearts on Valentine's Day. Could we lighten up? Please?????????

Also, the company has changed their mind in announcing the special announcement at the gathering. You will get a notification in the mail, sent to your home.

Patty

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FROM: Patty Lewis, Human Resources Director
TO: All #&$**@ Employees
DATE: December 10
RE: The #*&^@*^Holiday Party

I have no#&*@*^ idea what the announcement is all about. What the #&^!@ do I care...? I KNOW WHAT I AM GOING TO GET!!!!!!!!!!!! You change your address now and your are dead!!!!!!!!!!!! No more changes of address will be allowed in my office. Try to come in and change your address, I will have you hung from the ceiling in the warehouse!!

Vegetarians!?!?!? I've had it with you people!!! We're going to keep this party at Luigi's Open Pit Barbecue whether you like it or not. You can sit quietly at the table furthest from the "grill of death," as you so quaintly put it, and you'll get your @ #$^&*! salad bar, including hydroponic tomatoes. But you know, they have feelings, too. Tomatoes scream when you slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing them scream right now !HA! I hope you all have a rotten holiday!

Drive drunk and die, you hear me!!!!!!!!!!!

The ***** from HELL!!!!!!!!

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FROM: Terri Bishop, Acting Human Resources Director
TO: All Employees
DATE: December 14
RE: Patty Lewis and Holiday Party

I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Patty Lewis a speedy recovery from her stress-related illness, and I'll continue to forward your cards to her at the sanitarium. In the meantime, management has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and give everyone the afternoon of the 23rd off with full pay.

Happy Holidays!

Terri

[Last Conformist]

I saw that one in Swedish some years.

[Robert]

Strange, as a christian I think non-christians should talk about "Happy holidays" instead of "Merry christmas".
Why should people who don't worship Christ at all celebrate christmas?

In the end we, christians, stole christmas anyway from the heathens Let them have it back and rename it.
In the Bible christmas isn't even being celebrated. They celebrate eastern though. (in fact every week)

so, here's one christian who supports the "Happy holidays" stuff

[alva]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
I saw that one in Swedish some years.

Was by no means clainming it was new, it does sum up the situation pretty well though.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Guynemer
I don't think most non-Christians are offended by "Merry Christmas;" I'm certainly not. However, what is wrong with going to a more inclusive "Happy Holidays" language? Non-Christians, not offended by "Merry Christmas," nevertheless feel more comfortable and acknowledged with such language. What, exactly, is lost? How is it overly PC when there are relatively more non-Christians in America than there were a generation ago?


By the by--the Bush White House uses "Happy Holidays" exclusively, much to the chagrin of FoxNews, the American Family Association, etc.

Karl Rove isn't stupid, he knows that he wouldn't be where he is today by alienating African American and Muslim voters.