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    "The War on Christmas"

    I love this.


    The newest talking point for the Religious Right, now that we're not in an election year and gay marriage isn't a big deal?

    Christians are being discriminated against by the media and the retail industry, because they say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." Boycotts are being arranged against retailers as diverse as WalMart, Sears, and Best Buy, while Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews have daily updates on "The War On Christmas."


    Are they really serious about this ****? Poor widdle Christians being discriminated against? Honest to God, can someone tell me at what point exactly it was that we went through the looking glass here?
    "My nation is the world, and my religion is to do good." --Thomas Paine
    "The subject of onanism is inexhaustable." --Sigmund Freud
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  • #2
    Well, it is wrong to call it a war. I think people throw around the term "war" way too much.

    Having said that the anti-christmas discimination is real and it is absurd.

    Why are some atheists so upset by Christmas? Why do they get so offended by someone saying "Merry Christmas"? It's stupid!
    'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
    G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"

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    • #3
      I do think Happy Holidays is the creation of the gutless class. However, I'm part of the gutless class, and find Happy Holidays to be convenient in a number of situations.

      You could get away with Merry Christmas just fine in all of the red states and Walmart country, however. This is just a clash of diverse areas, which have created this stupid stuff in order for people to be able to live together in relative harmony, versus homogeneous areas, which rightly see this stuff as absurd.
      I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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      • #4
        This whole "Christians are oppressed" thing is such bull****.

        Happy Holidays exists because our society includes lots of non-Christians. Perish the thought that we may want to actually INCLUDE those people, instead of ignoring them or, worse yet, aggressively yelling MERRY CHRISTMAS at them. I've heard of that little tactic, btw - it's not actually a goodwill wish, it's a bizzaro fundy attack - I CAN SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU AND EVEN IF YOU'RE A DIRTY JEW OR SOMESUCH, YOU MUST STAND THERE AND TAKE IT. I'M SO OPPRESSED BY THE EVIL LIBERALS!!

        -Arrian
        grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

        The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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        • #5
          But it is Christmas. Why call it anything else.....?

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          • #6
            Having said that the anti-christmas discimination is real and it is absurd.


            There was this thing in the UK a couple of weeks ago, where a counsel changed the name "christmas lights" to something like "Happy lights" because some religous **** claimed it was hurting them.
            Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing?
            Then why call him God? - Epicurus

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            • #7
              "Festival of Lights"

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              • #8
                Hell I'm just curious why Christmas vacation turned into winter break?

                Anyway, Why avoid using 'Merry Christmas'?
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                • #9
                  Meh, personally, I *do* say Merry Christmas to people I know celebrate it. And I'm an atheist. To my jewish friends, I'll say Happy Chan-howeverthe****youspellit ( ). To people I don't really know, Happy Holidays just works better.

                  It's just not that big a deal. But religionistas and culture warriors on both sides just HAVE to make it one.

                  -Arrian
                  grog want tank...Grog Want Tank... GROG WANT TANK!

                  The trick isn't to break some eggs to make an omelette, it's convincing the eggs to break themselves in order to aspire to omelettehood.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The diplomat
                    Well, it is wrong to call it a war. I think people throw around the term "war" way too much.
                    QFT

                    Also, as atheist I find "happy holiday" overly pc. (otoh here in Germany nobody cares)
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                    • #11
                      BTW, is it now "How the Grinch stole holiday"?
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                      • #12
                        I find it a great way of filtering out idiots. I don't want to talk to anyone who is offended when I say "merry christmas."

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                        • #13
                          It's just not that big a deal.
                          For somebody in homogeneous area, it seems awful forced. It's applying a compromise hashed out in New York City to Main Street USA.

                          Happy Holidays exists because our society includes lots of non-Christians.
                          Not in most areas of the country.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • #14
                            I just thought I'd throw this in: Wellington won't have nativity scene in its annual holiday display
                            I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                            For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                            • #15
                              My parents told me that in "communist" Eastern Germany they tried to introduce "Lichterfest" (Fest of Lights) as an official replacement for "Christmas" which they thought was too religious, but people didn't care, so the term dissappeared sooner or later....
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