Immigrant Riots

[muxec]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
I have no idea what your point is. im trying to say that the russians didnt russianify their minoirites the way that the french did. why? because they didnt not remove their language for one. lithuanians dont feel russian even after centuries of domination. what are you trying to say?

No matter what the crowd says you and you family can keep you language even under totalitarian regime that kills. But please respect the law of where you live.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

im surprised you euros dont know about this.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

No matter what the crowd says you and you family can keep you language even under totalitarian regime that kills. But please respect the law of where you live.

what does that mean? and how does this have anything to do with the discussion. now im really confused.

[muxec]

Go ask Estonians if they feel Russian

Famous Russian joke says that if you now ask Estonians wheter or not they feel Russian than Estanians will answer after 50 years.

[Seeker]

err...is the man in that picture brandishing a large penis at the police??

Anyway, foolish Frogs screwed up their nation as usual, such things could never happen here in southwestern Ontario.

Riots over yet?

[muxec]

Pekka, do you think that Finnish-Russian border must be a little to th East from it's current location?

[Pekka]

Besides, Russia had tons of different people and origins in it's days. Seemed to work out for a while it did. A huge country with tons of different people but all Russian.

But the fact that these folks in France now calls themselves second class citizens, is it really true? If you are poor, unemployed, uneducated, you don't have much things going for you, of course you feel second class. Whose fault is this? What does it have to do with race, religion?

Where France might have failed, which I don't know, is to provide good educating possibilities for _everyone_. If that is done, then surely everyone is more equal than not, and it's a matter of what you do with it yourself, instead of demanding **** for free. Everyone works for it hard, through education first, then job, if no job, then create it. Sit down and hang around with buddies, you get nowhere in this world. That's a fact and you can only blame yourself.

Of course if that opportunity is not offered, then it's a problem for sures and equal opportunity is not there. They need strong community leaders, you look at for example the US.. people there have strong communities and people to look, like there are many african american sports people even back in the days when it was very racist. But there were heroes, who worked hard, positive role models for youth. Showing, if you do this, you can make it, so go there and do it. Create more opportunities to yourself. Don't sit and wait for the state to carry you around or you beocme a loser in no time.

It's bad attitude that's what it is. They need heroes and strong leaders, people who make it in the traditional world of France and become positive models for everyone. These days in the US, for every community, you have many people to look up and even if you are poor and from poor areas, you know it's possible and you have to work within the system, just like everyone else. When you start sitting on your ass and blame everyone else, that's when you don't get anything, but that's also because you don't deserve anything.

What ever you do, don't go trashing the businesses of your own community. THat's stupid beyond reality. This is a hard message, but it's the reality fo the situation.

[Pekka]

muxec, it's a complex question that needs more information than that. If I was to say yes or no, I can answer both. Yes it should be. And no it shouldn't be.

I have no invading fantasies. I'm man of peace.

[muxec]

[offtopic]This topic is worth creating another separate thread. I'll go to bed now, please speak with Ming so he does not remove it when I create it.[/offtopic]

[Pekka]

BUT ONE thing I have to clear first. With all this 'bad attitude' and 'loser criminals' talk from me, as I feel this is not a race issue, they also are not taking it to the 'rich people', but rather state. It's the right address when you want changes. The methods are wrong. But the address is right. So if only they had been peaceful or angry but not doing this.. man I might even support them. But this action of course is unacceptable.

So all the angry rich folks should stay cool, this is against state, not them.

[Bkeela]

Ah, Multiculturalism is so wonderful.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
why? does the lithuanian language still exist? if it does, then you cannot say that the russians russianified their minorities, because they did not manage to stamp out the language in the same way that the french did. no more language = cultural unity.

That the Lithuanians still speak their language, and feel Lithuanian, shows that the Russification decided by the Czar and continued by the Commies didn't work.

However, it did occur, since the central governments have done everything they could to destroy local cultures, just like the third Republic.

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Winston
No, not to my knowledge. I was just spinning it a little further in your thread. But it honestly wouldn't surprise me if they should turn out to follow my 'suggestion'.

Better prepare to be

Yes, we´re so stupid. we would even grant idiots like you citizenship if you wanted it (which I know you don´t)...

[Winston]

Well suit yourselves, neighbours. It's your top members of government that get killed, not ours.

[muxec]

Is it some kind of pan-scandinavian issue?

Do I have any chance to get asylum and later citizenship in Denmark with my fake Iraqi passport?