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  • I thought he did cite it. Am I mistaken?
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • If he did, why would this something to be embarassed about? A buck is a buck is a buck.
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      • Nothing to be embarrased about, but when coupled with the fact of 1.3% average growth for the decade, it just highlights the fact that Germans themselves don't have much of an appetite for buying what's being produced.
        I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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        • Could be largely due to the stagnant and/or falling real estate prices. In countries like the UK, Spain or Australia that appears to have been the main factor behind strong consumptions growth.
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          • Who knows? But I do think it's very important to punish the politicians for poor results, even if their impact isn't direct (although I think it is more direct in Germany, than the US, for instance). Schroeder should have been kicked to the curb long ago. The German voters aren't doing their jobs.
            I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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            • Circumstances makes the man. Obviously Schröder couldn't tell his central banker to blow up some nice bubbly bubbles to get consumption going, and he had to counter anti-reformists within his own party and an antagonistic CDU-controlled bundesrat.

              At least the man has guts and I think that's worth more than whatever Merkel promises.
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              • Results are what matter. For whatever reason, Germany with Schroeder as chancellor doesn't work right. Maybe he doesn't inspire confidence in Germans of all stripes. Who knows.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • Originally posted by DanS
                  Schroeder should have been kicked to the curb long ago. The German voters aren't doing their jobs.
                  Maybe you should apply that judgement to the US as well?
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                  • We're doing OK. Even if you think that Bush is living off the good policies of Clinton, the structure we have is working, and should be perpetuated (although I think the GOP congress should now be voted out of office for other reasons).
                    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                    • Originally posted by DanS
                      Results are what matter. For whatever reason, Germany with Schroeder as chancellor doesn't work right. Maybe he doesn't inspire confidence in Germans of all stripes. Who knows.
                      Seriously, if that's all there is to democracy we could just as well get rid of this voting and replace it by software that automatically boots any chancellor that doesn't get X growth and Y unemployment.
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                      • Originally posted by DanS
                        We're doing OK. Even if you think that Bush is living off the good policies of Clinton, the structure we have is working, and should be perpetuated.
                        The federal budget swung over 4% in the negative, average GDP growth was lower, NYSE plunged, unemployment rose and to boot it all: the WTC collapsed. Results is what matters.
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                        • No, there are other considerations. Everybody's situation is different. But failures cry out for democratic punishment. This is elementary.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • Originally posted by DanS
                            No, there are other considerations. Everybody's situation is different. But failures cry out for democratic punishment. This is elementary.
                            With Bush there are considerations, but with Schröder not?

                            Bush should have had the foresight to install SAM-batteries near the WTC: he's the president of the US godammit.
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                            • The federal budget swung over 4% in the negative, average GDP growth was lower, NYSE plunged, unemployment rose and to boot it all: the WTC collapsed. Results is what matters.
                              And if that negative situation persisted, then Bush should have been booted out of office. But the economy put up a 4.2% growth rate last year and unemployment is falling. There have been no new major terrorist attacks in the US so far.
                              Last edited by DanS; September 19, 2005, 00:08.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • Are you seriously questioning whether Schroeder is a failure? That Germany is doing poorly?
                                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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