Pregnant Nude On Plinth Provokes Puking

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Granted. But the question is how would you make a nude person in a wheelchair, not only appear beautiful, in the sense that you find her attractive, but also enticing for lack of a better word?

http://www.mswheelchairamerica.org/mwa2005.html

?

I could imagine a better pose than this, but you get the idea.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by duke o' york
The problem is that, if this is an attempt to shock the public, then the public are easily shocked, and need such shocks, for want of a better word, to be educated against such snap judgements in future.

Im not sure that shocking them opens them up more. My sense is that it doesnt.

[duke o' york]

Either way, re-education is definitely required if this sort of thing still shocks people.

[Ben Kenobi]

I could imagine a better pose than this, but you get the idea.

No, not what I had in mind, although now I probably have to go to confession.

[Ben Kenobi]

Im not sure that shocking them opens them up more. My sense is that it doesnt.

I think the cure is worse then the disease. In attempting to prevent shock, does more damage then allowing them to happen.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by MarkG

Camille Paglia in Sexual Persona says the Greek ideal of beauty was homoerotic. They idealized the beautiful boy.

is this homoerotic?

http://jeffrobin.hightechhigh.org/Pr...%20c.100bc.jpg

Yes in a way, it is:

1) She seems very reluctant to accept his invitations.
2) The only thing that is hard on the "horny" guy is the horn in his forehead.

So if it's erotic at all, it's not heteroerotic

[lord of the mark]

wait a minute - Red Ken is for it, and the Tories are agin it. I guess i stepped into one of y'all's political minefields (even though the critic at the Guardian didnt like it much) Forget I said anything.

[Chemical Ollie]

The bad thing about the limbless statue chick is that you have nowhere to apply the handcuffs

[duke o' york]

Why would you want to handcuff yourself to that? There are plenty of railings in Trafalgar Square if you're planning a protest.

[Chemical Ollie]

Man, you have no fantasy

[duke o' york]

Man, you don't do deadpan.

Besides, handcuffs aren't the only fantasy......

[Solomwi]

Originally posted by Kontiki


Yes, I think it's safe to say you're the only one.

Seems so, and what a dark day for Apolyton that makes it . Looks like I'm getting some ancillary support from Chemical Ollie, though.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Cort Haus

Calling a person ugly dehumanizes them.

For me the statue represents the contemporary cult of victimhood - where heroic status is confered upon people who have had things happen to them rather than by doing something heroic.

The snorts of disgust aimed at Nelson (who was crippled defending his country) and the bowing and scraping before an image of a woman who was just unlucky says a lot about our national sport of self-deprecation, and the cult of the victim.

It says a lot about someone that they can see Alison Lapper (who doesn't describe herself as a victim, but as an artist) as unheroic- born in an era when her birth mother was told to give her up for adoption because she was told the baby was 'undoubtedly' retarded, as well as physically disabled, and where Ms Lapper had to undergo numerous 'treatments' designed to help her approximate an idea of 'normality' with artificial arms, hooks and legs, she did indeed do something heroic, by transcending societal ideas of what she was capable of, and by making a living for herself, and by having a full sex life- something that many able-bodied people feel is 'disgusting'.

It says a lot about some people that they can't see heroism in the lives of 'ordinary' people who do extraordinary things.

http://www.amfpa.com/html/show.php?appl=KUENSTLER&lang=2&mid=1288&i_artist=4101

Ms. Lapper's work:

[Drake Tungsten]

I make a living for myself and have a full sex life. I'm a hero.

edit: I'm also reminded of this piece.

[Cort Haus]

The sexual possibilities for the limbless are well documented. I saw a programme many years ago about thalidomide victims in their late teens. Lack of an interesting sex life was not among their problems. Not for the girls, anyway.