GTA San Andreas promotes immorality

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Sava
Okay then.

Sorry if I misinterpreted you post.

That would be acceptable- you could have left off the lame rejoinder at the end though.

It just looks immature...

[Sava]

[molly bloom]

How did you put it ?

I expect a little more sense out of you.

And I replied:

Well, I never expect any from you, so I'm rarely disappointed, dear.

Consider me not disappointed, then.

[Sava]

Originally posted by molly bloom

Consider me not disappointed, then.

Well. Your disappointment is not my concern.

Considering you would be "not disappointed" whether I have sense or not, your being "not disappointed" does not speak to whether or I have sense or not.


Food for thought.

The important thing being. I am right. As usual.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Bill3000


Even though it is Adults Only, and as such cannot be purchased for the intent of letting anyone under 18 play?

It was rated M before "hot coffee" and will be rated M again when they clean that up.

Of course M games are not supposed to be available to under 17. But surveys have showed a HUGE proportion of under 17, and even preteen, boys, have played it. Why and how this occurs is a matter of some debate.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Atahualpa
the question is wether games incite people to kill people

No. the focus on games causing shooting sprees, is on the one hand, a gimmick for certain lawyers, and on the other hand, a great strawman for the games do no harm school of thought. As UR has pointed out, there is significant evidence that certain violent games DO make people feel more aggressive (and yes, the studies arent perfect, but are about the best that can be done in scientific, controlled circumstances) . This can, potentilally be expressed in many ways, including bullying, verbal aggression, etc. Or it can even be turned inward, in depression.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Sava
Do we lock parents up if their children get ahold of violent video games?
.

How about if we start, by making parents who let their kids play extremely violent games, be as socially ostracized as parents who let their kids watch pornography would be?

[Sava]

Originally posted by lord of the mark



How about if we start, by making parents who let their kids play extremely violent games, be as socially ostracized as parents who let their kids watch pornography would be?

Okay, let's not invite them to our tea parties!

[chequita guevara]

There's a graph in this month's Computer Gaming World which shows violent crime going down even as the sales of these types of games increase.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There's a graph in this month's Computer Gaming World which shows violent crime going down even as the sales of these types of games increase.

Membership in labor unions has gone down, even when union expenditures on organizing drives has increased. This proves that organizing drives are unrelated to union membership. Your assignment is to explain why this is a fallacy.

If you dont like that example try this - the population of the globe increased dramatically during the first half of the 20th century, even while the casualties from wars increased. Ergo, casualties from wars do not impact population.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There's a graph in this month's Computer Gaming World which shows violent crime going down even as the sales of these types of games increase.

IIUC gun ownership increased over the same period. As did income inequality in the US. Which would show that neither of these cause violent crime, either.


Im not saying that video games DO cause violent crime - but the kind of reasoning in tht mag, and used by some here, is fallacious. X can cause Y, and yet X can increase while Y is decreasing. Because X causes Y does NOT imply that X is the only thing that causes Y.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
There's a graph in this month's Computer Gaming World which shows violent crime going down even as the sales of these types of games increase.

Perhaps because the sales of white goods increased.


It's an easy game to play- 'Hey!' says Bigot A, 'We have more crime, and immigration increased!' making a causal link where none is necessarily found.


The Yorkshire Ripper claimed part of his fascination with killing women had roots in a Victorian end of pier educational style exhibition which showed dummies with their innards exposed.


Presumably hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people could have seen that exhibition and not been tempted to kill any number of women.

Another murderer placed his kill fantasies as beginning in his strict Plymouth Brethren upbringing.

Considering you would be "not disappointed" whether I have sense or not, your being "not disappointed" does not speak to whether or I have sense or not.

Sava


Of course not dear, and neither does the content your posts.

[Sava]

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Sava
Pot. Kettle. Black.

If you try very hard, and perhaps put in the required amount of study, you'll be able to join those words with others and fashion a whole sentence.


Then after more study, you can perhaps write a sentence that also makes sense.


Something to aim for, eh ?


Then who knows ? Whole paragraphs !!!

[chequita guevara]

Never go up against a gay man in a ***** fight.