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  • who won alamo!
    who won alamo!

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    • USA! USA!

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      • What IS this double eagle thing? I don't know all the colours, and some are flags and others just symbols but ...

        Albania - Black two-headed eagle on red background
        Serbia - White two-headed eagle
        Greece - two-headed eagle (I've seen it on a monastery in Crete)
        Russia - two headed eagle
        Byzantines - two headed eagle (according to BE)
        Maccas - two headed eagle (According to Gangerolf's post)

        Apart from Albania, the Byzantine / Orthodox thing would explain it - except that prior to the Ottomans the Albanians were predominantly Orthodox before converting. Too bad they forgot to redesign their flag ...

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        • yeah
          hey even the turks were christian before meeting the arabs.

          As to what it is, I could try and explain but with care, don't take every word for granted.

          The two heads on the eagle were the borders of west and east that needed guarding. that's why the eagle looks so pissed looking to both directions. the round ball with the cross on it signifies the authority of the church (it is actually a holy artifact in orthodoxc religion), the sword on the other hand signifies the power of the emperor. both signify the duality of authority in the empire (emperor/patriarch).

          as for that monestary in Crete, the double headed eagle is one of the symbols of orthodoxy.
          Last edited by Bereta_Eder; September 10, 2005, 16:28.

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          • Originally posted by Bereta_Eder
            the bird would **** on the lion's head and the lion couldlnt do squat
            he could throw his axe at the filthy thing

            CSPA

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            • Well, some claim two-headed eagle emblemat was actually brought by Turks, but I've also read that it was put as a symbol of the Byzantines by Michael VIII Plalaiologos or somewhere about that time, to symbolise the reborned Empire guarding two parts of itself, Europe and Asia, after the reconquista of large piece of the European part by the Empire of Nicea under John III Dukas Watatzes and Michael VIII.

              Oh, and Albanians were perhaps not majorly, but largely, catholic befor becoming Muslim,
              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
              Middle East!

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              • Hmm...it looked smaller on google
                Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                • Texas Again.

                  Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.

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                  • What constitutes the Montengrine ethnicity? They have no language of their own and by their religion should easily compare to their neighbours.

                    If they're muslims, they're Bosnians or Albanians. If they're Catholics, they're Croatians. If they're Orthodox, they're Serbs. Why make them a nation of their own?

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                    • Did Texas join the US voluntarily in face of the Mexican threat or were they simply annexed by the stronger nation?

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                      • I guess they're (montenegro, not texas) to Serbia what Austria is to Germany. Or something like that.
                        CSPA

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                        • What's the difference between Austrians and Bavarians?

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                          • The shade of grey in the Lederhosen.

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                            • Originally posted by Ecthy
                              Did Texas join the US voluntarily in face of the Mexican threat or were they simply annexed by the stronger nation?
                              Texans were basically Americans.

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                              • An American national identity outside of the east coast in the 1830s? Un-possible.

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