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    • Originally posted by VetLegion
      Well, obviously core regions of any country are likely to be uncontested (not in case of Macedonia, though). But border areas and remote regions in the Balkans are very likely to be eyed by the neighbours... perhaps waiting for the right moment? Take Solun/Thesaloniki. It is on at least three maps in this thread: Greek, Macedonian and Bulgarian. And it's only three, because the Turkish map hasn't been posted yet

      Well, there goes an Ottoman map...
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      • You may find it interesting that in Turkey there's not much of a concept of a "Greater Turkey" per se.

        On the one hand, if you think about the region around Turkey, there are sizeable Turkish minorities in many of Turkey's immediate neighbours (in Greece, Bulgaria, Iraq, and also Iran with its large Azeri minority) and thus a lot of material if you want to construct an irredentist mythos.

        On the other hand, nationalism after the proclamation of the republic was so carefully shaped by Atatürk that irredentism virtually disappeared as an agenda item in Turkey (that at the high time of a fascist tide in Europe).
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        • I think 1974. demonstrates that Turkey is not immune from that kind of thing at all.

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          • 1974? Was that the invasion of Cyprus?
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            • Yes. Ancyrean could argue that Turkey wasn't really planning it and was dragged in, so the invasion wasn't a realisation of some "Greater Turkey" agenda. OK. Effect was the same though, Turkish Republic of North Cyprus is not de jure part of Turkey but de facto it is. Correct me if I am wrong on that.

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              • By the way, protecting a minority of own nationals abroad is a pretty aggresive philosophy if you think about it. For example, Croatia has in its constitution that it is obligation of the state to care for Croatians abroad. In the case of Bosnia, that means we would (and had) militarily intervene in case their existence is endangered. Similar to Turkey and Cyprus if you will.

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                • Not exactly territorial ambition, but not far from it. It's the next best thing.

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                  • Indeed, that's really aggressive, and it corresponds to an ethnical vision of the nation, which is seriously destructive.

                    AFAIK, there is no vision of greater France. There used to be one, prior to WW1, back when we wanted Alsace Lorraine back, and when we claimed much of Africa for ourselves.

                    But AFAIK, now that the time of revanchism is gone for us, we have no dreams of greater France, and we don't base our identity on ethnical principles. Our government might defend French citizens abroad (like any government actually), but it doesn't defend people from some French ethnical groups that has no ties with our citizenship.
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                    • Don't play peacenik with me, I know that you French imperialists intervene somewhere in Africa about every 30 days or so

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                      • I wanna invade somewhere But going with the minority excuse it would have to be places like North Dakota or Costa Blanca, which aren't that easy to move my army to...
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                        • Gangerolf, aren't you Swedish?

                          Did you know what the Finns are doing to the Swedish minority there? I can't bear to talk about it - it's that bad! What are you waiting for, attack and liberate!

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                          • Originally posted by VetLegion
                            Gangerolf, aren't you Swedish?


                            It reminds me of: "Sava, aren't you from Texas?" :rofl:
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                            • Hey, it's a big site, I can't know you all.

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                              • Originally posted by VetLegion
                                Don't play peacenik with me, I know that you French imperialists intervene somewhere in Africa about every 30 days or so
                                Obviously, but that's because Africa is our playground, not because it's our territory, nor is it because there are ethnical groups we feel obliged to protect.
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