Mayor Ray Nagin ordered an immediate evacuation Sunday for all of New Orleans

[Boris Godunov]

Is civil unrest not far away?

Anger rises among Mississippi's poor after Katrina By Paul Simao
Wed Aug 31,10:11 PM ET

BILOXI, Mississippi (Reuters) - For about a decade this gambling town on Mississippi's Gulf Coast has been the place to be in the state if you were poor, down on your luck and looking for work.

That changed on Monday when Hurricane Katrina came ashore, leveling hundreds if not thousands of houses, stores and commercial buildings and killing scores of residents.

The legalization of gambling in Biloxi created an economic boom in the early 1990s and the city developed a reputation as a place where a person could get a decent-paying job in the casino or hospitality business.

But not everyone prospered. In the devastated streets and atop the rubble piles where their homes stood before Katrina blew through, a bitter refrain is increasingly heard. Poor and low-income residents complain that they have borne the brunt of the hurricane's wrath.

"Many people didn't have the financial means to get out," said Alan LeBreton, 41, an apartment superintendent who lived on Biloxi's seaside road, now in ruins. "That's a crime and people are angry about it."

Many of the town's well-off heeded authorities' warnings to flee north, joining thousands of others who traveled from the Gulf Coast into northern Mississippi and Alabama, Georgia and other nearby states.

Hotels along the interstates and other main roads were packed with these temporary refugees. Gas stations and convenience stores -- at least those that were open -- sold out of water, ice and other supplies within hours.

But others could not afford to join them, either because they didn't own a car or couldn't raise funds for even the cheapest motel.

"No way we could do that," said Willie Rhetta, a bus driver, who remained in his home to await Katrina.

Resentment at being left behind in the path of one of the fiercest hurricanes on record may have contributed to some of the looting that occurred in Biloxi and other coastal communities.

A number of private residences, including some in upscale neighborhoods, were targeted, residents said.

Class divisions, which often fall along racial lines in this once-segregated southern state, are not new to Mississippi. It traditionally is one of the poorest states in the United States.

In 2004, Mississippi had the second lowest median household income and the highest percentage of people -- 21.6 percent -- living in poverty, according to a report released this week by the U.S. Census Bureau.

[OzzyKP]

As always, a good comprehensive place for information is Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina

[GePap]

For some reason, David Brooks have mellowed out and is making a bit more sense lately:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/opinion/01brooks.html

Op-Ed Columnist
The Storm After the Storm
By DAVID BROOKS
Published: September 1, 2005

Hurricanes come in two waves. First comes the rainstorm, and then comes what the historian John Barry calls the "human storm" - the recriminations, the political conflict and the battle over compensation. Floods wash away the surface of society, the settled way things have been done. They expose the underlying power structures, the injustices, the patterns of corruption and the unacknowledged inequalities. When you look back over the meteorological turbulence in this nation's history, it's striking how often political turbulence followed.

In 1889 in Pennsylvania, a great flood washed away much of Johnstown. The water's crushing destruction sounded to one person like a "lot of horses grinding oats." Witnesses watched hundreds of people trapped on a burning bridge, forced to choose between burning to death or throwing themselves into the churning waters to drown.

The flood was so abnormal that the country seemed to have trouble grasping what had happened. The national media were filled with wild exaggerations and fabrications: stories of rivers dammed with corpses, of children who died while playing ring-around-the-rosy and who were found with their hands still clasped and with smiles still on their faces.

Prejudices were let loose. Hungarians then were akin to today's illegal Mexican immigrants - hard-working people who took jobs no one else wanted. Newspapers carried accounts of gangs of Hungarian men cutting off dead women's fingers to steal their rings. "Drunken Hungarians, Dancing, Singing, Cursing and Fighting Amid the Ruins" a New York Herald headline blared.

Then, as David McCullough notes in "The Johnstown Flood," public fury turned on the Pittsburgh millionaires whose club's fishing pond had emptied on the town. The Chicago Herald depicted the millionaires as Roman aristocrats, seeking pleasure while the poor died like beasts in the Coliseum.

Even before the flood, public resentment was building against the newly rich industrialists. Protests were growing against the trusts, against industrialization and against the new concentrations of wealth. The Johnstown flood crystallized popular anger, for the fishing club was indeed partly to blame. Public reaction to the disaster helped set the stage for the progressive movement and the trust-busting that was to come.

In 1900, another great storm hit the U.S., killing over 6,000 people in Galveston, Tex. The storm exposed racial animosities, for this time stories (equally false) swept through the press accusing blacks of cutting off the fingers of corpses to steal wedding rings. The devastation ended Galveston's chance to beat out Houston as Texas' leading port.

Then in 1927, the great Mississippi flood rumbled down upon New Orleans. As Barry writes in his account, "Rising Tide," the disaster ripped the veil off the genteel, feudal relations between whites and blacks, and revealed the festering iniquities. Blacks were rounded up into work camps and held by armed guards. They were prevented from leaving as the waters rose. A steamer, the Capitol, played "Bye Bye Blackbird" as it sailed away. The racist violence that followed the floods helped persuade many blacks to move north.

Civic leaders intentionally flooded poor and middle-class areas to ease the water's pressure on the city, and then reneged on promises to compensate those whose homes were destroyed. That helped fuel the populist anger that led to Huey Long's success. Across the country people demanded that the federal government get involved in disaster relief, helping to set the stage for the New Deal. The local civic elite turned insular and reactionary, and New Orleans never really recovered its preflood vibrancy.

We'd like to think that the stories of hurricanes and floods are always stories of people rallying together to give aid and comfort. And, indeed, each of America's great floods has prompted a popular response both generous and inspiring. But floods are also civic examinations. Amid all the stories that recur with every disaster - tales of sudden death and miraculous survival, the displacement and the disease - there is also the testing.

Civic arrangements work or they fail. Leaders are found worthy or wanting. What's happening in New Orleans and Mississippi today is a human tragedy. But take a close look at the people you see wandering, devastated, around New Orleans: they are predominantly black and poor. The political disturbances are still to come.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
God. Now they've put a hold on transport between the domes because people in NO are shooting at the chinooks that are helping move people. How ****ing stupid do people get?

And now, according to the national guard, this never happened.

[lord of the mark]

reports that New Orleans evacuees have committed acts of violence at a relocation center in Baton Rouge.
Baton Rouge shelters overwhelmed.

People across the country offering to put up evacuees in their homes.

Predominantly black east New Orleans virtually destroyed.

Water draining back into Lake Ponchartrain.

Evacuees returning to some of the parishes west of New Orleans.

New Orleans Times Picayune, publishing online, from Baton Rouge.

Rescues of isolated people from rooftops continues.

People whove been rescued, have been dropped on any dry spot, highway overpasses, etc. Evacuation from superdome taking precedence.

Many areas in Lousiana, Missippi, with large numbers of evacuees, are still without electric power themselves.

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi

And now, according to the national guard, this never happened.

NG is running the bus evacuation of the healthy, which continues. The ambulance service which was running the air evacuation of the sick, reports theyve stopped. At least from the superdome. I presume the evacuation from hospitals is continuing.

edit: pardon. CNN indicates its the air evacuation from the hospitals that is having problems.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

FEMA has suspended boat rescues due to dangers to the rescuers.

[chequita guevara]

Hurricanes come in two waves. First comes the rainstorm, and then comes what the historian John Barry calls the "human storm" - the recriminations, the political conflict and the battle over compensation. Floods wash away the surface of society, the settled way things have been done. They expose the underlying power structures, the injustices, the patterns of corruption and the unacknowledged inequalities. When you look back over the meteorological turbulence in this nation's history, it's striking how often political turbulence followed.

This is something I discovered about a decade ago, inadvertantly. In almost every case of major unrest or revolution, the proximate cause is a disaster, manmade or natural it doesn't matter.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous
FEMA has suspended boat rescues due to dangers to the rescuers.

Where the hell is the army?

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Richelieu


Where the hell is the army?

the army doenst specialize in boat rescues, the Coast Guard does. Theyre quite good at it.

[Richelieu]

Originally posted by lord of the mark


the army doenst specialize in boat rescues, the Coast Guard does. Theyre quite good at it.

Not for rescue: to keep or reestablish order while FEMA or the Coast Guard does their work.

[Lefty Scaevola]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Well, theoretically, the skyscraper foundations are in the bedrock.

I do not think so, I believe the delta sediments are too deep under NO.

[techumseh]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

The point is that the connection appears to be producing more and stronger hurricanes than in the recorded history of the area due to the simple equation: warmer waters = stronger hurricanes.

That isn't true in the slightest.

Katrina is more intense than was Camille at any point in Camille's lifetime

Camille was more intense than Katrina at landfall, however, which is what really matters. The difference in their maximum intensity was also negligible: 905mb for Camille compared to 902mb for Katrina.

It really isn't good enough to use blogs to support your arguments. It's using someone else's opinion to support your opinion. It's clear that the source of a Hurricane's energy is warm surface water. As the oceans warm as a result of the greenhouse effect, the hurricane season begins earlier, lasts longer, and produces more frequent and more powerful hurricanes. Here is a scientific article which cites several studies that indicate this: http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/~tk/glob_warm_hurr.html There are lots more.

[Richelieu]

By ADAM NOSSITER

Associated Press Writer

Outside the Convention Center, the sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement. Thousands of storm refugees had been assembling outside for days, waiting for buses that did not come.

At least seven bodies were scattered outside, and hungry, desperate people who were tired of waiting broke through the steel doors to a food service entrance and began pushing out pallets of water and juice and whatever else they could find.

An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

``I don't treat my dog like that,'' 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. ``I buried my dog.'' He added: ``You can do everything for other countries but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can't get them down here.''

[techumseh]

Floods wash away the surface of society, the settled way things have been done. They expose the underlying power structures, the injustices, the patterns of corruption and the unacknowledged inequalities.

The proof is unfolding before our eyes. The political consequences of Katrina will reverberate for years.