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Under control of the governors. I'm not entirely sure where in the command structure they fit, but national guard units belong to the states.
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Though apparently the US govt thinks they should be in Iraq instead shoring up the inadequacies of the US Army...Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi
but national guard units belong to the states.
JACKSON BARRACKS -- When members of the Louisiana National Guard left for Iraq in October, they took a lot equipment with them. Dozens of high water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators are now abroad, and in the event of a major natural disaster that, could be a problem.
"The National Guard needs that equipment back home to support the homeland security mission," said Lt. Colonel Pete Schneider with the LA National Guard.
And the St. Louis Post-Dispatch:
In no state have those deaths registered more than in Louisiana. Louisiana, along with New York, has lost more guardsmen and reservists - 23 as of July 24 - than any state in the nation, and all but one of those deaths have come in the last eight months.
Before Bush took office, the NATIONAL guard was to help out with things like the hurricane that is slamming into LA as we speak. Well tough ****, they are in Iraq!
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Because clearly the purpose of national guard units is to sit in the state waiting for a natural disaster to happen, rather than support the US military.Comment
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national guard units are under control of the governors, but can be "nationalized" by order of the President. They are available for both local service, and national military service."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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actually...Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Because clearly the purpose of national guard units is to sit in the state waiting for a natural disaster to happen, rather than support the US military.
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NATIONAL GUARD
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guard the nation
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go die in iraq
that's why we have an armyTo us, it is the BEAST.Comment
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Dude, it's just a bright star in an otherwise dark night. Don't harsh our mellow.Originally posted by Sprayber
I think the trade off sucked don't you? It's not like Lott is going to be affected by it that much. But I guess if it makes some liberal feel good that Lott's home was destroyed at that price, who am I to argue.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Originally posted by Sprayber
I apologize.
Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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I know that. They're primary purpose, however, is as a military reserve.Originally posted by lord of the mark
national guard units are under control of the governors, but can be "nationalized" by order of the President. They are available for both local service, and national military service.Comment
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Actually, their primary purpose is to defend against domestic insurrection.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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Geez. There's a FEMA guy on now...he was just asked what the incoming NG units would be doing to protect the people in shelters and the transports moving people out. His response: "Protect them from what?"
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Mobius, I know you're a big expert on the USA, but several National Guardsmen have been as lacking as you in knowledge.
Their first priority is a kind of homeland security effort, to use today's nomenclature; but besides that, they AND the Coast Guard can be called into duty on foreign soil.
Coast Guard most definitely learned this in Vietnam, as the coasts included patrolling rivers.
Many national guard units were and are pressed into service to support the army, of which thay are a part.
Go gather your facts before attempting to be cute, because you fail miserably so far at being either cute or accurate.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
"Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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Do you yourself write for the liberal-whiner blogs or just scour them for pathetic comments to use as your own?Originally posted by MOBIUS
Bush dropped the ball...
When invading Iraq has cost so much money that requests to improve levees last year were refused
When the 'peace' of Iraq has proved such a drain on manpower that the Louisiana National Guard is over there and not where they should be - guarding their patch of the nation.
Katrina and the Louisana National Guard
Bush is at least in some way accountable both for the destruction of New Orleans and hindering the recovery...
No president has allocated the billions of dollars it would take to build a levee/pumping system that would have survived Katrina, nor could one ever do so. The small decrease in funding (while foolish in hindsight) would not have had an effect.
Your ignorance of the National Guard and its employment is simply pathetic and unworthy of further comment.We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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Last warning... this is an informational thread... NOT a political thread. If you continue to push your politics in this thread, you will have to find someplace else to post them, because you WILL GET RESTRICTED here!
SpencerH, MOBIUS, SlowwHand and all others who want to talk politics... DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE!Keep on Civin'
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You said it...Originally posted by SlowwHand Their first priority is a kind of homeland security effort
Facts gathered - as supplied by you!Go gather your facts before attempting to be cute, because you fail miserably so far at being either cute or accurate.
If you're having to dip into your homeland security military reserve then your military is inadequately manned...
It is anarchy on the streets of New Orleans right now or hadn't you heard - the very people that should be dealing with this disaster are half a world away in Iraq!
They're talking about needing 40,000 troops just to deal with this - the reason why people are complaining it's taking so long for the military to instill order is because they're having to come in from outside!Comment
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