Mayor Ray Nagin ordered an immediate evacuation Sunday for all of New Orleans

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
you are such a mobius, are you?

At least my argument is hitting home, people like you just don't like it when you can't compete with the facts - hence resorting to the personal digs...

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by BlackCat
No, you have just for yet another time displayed that you don't know what you are talking about.

You can't in any way make any connection between burning hydrocarbons, global warming and what has happend in NO - any given hurricane of the size of the current that went the path of it would have made exactly the same damage.

How much of a dimwit are you!!?

Of course 'any given hurricane of the size of the current that went the path of it would have made exactly the same damage'...

The point is that the connection appears to be producing more and stronger hurricanes than in the recorded history of the area due to the simple equation: warmer waters = stronger hurricanes.

There have been lots of similiar hurricanes historically, but they just have avoided to hit NO.

Not since records began in that area there haven't - or at least not since the last few years...

'Hurricane Katrina is now the fourth most intense hurricane ever in the Atlantic basin, with a pressure of 902mb. Katrina is more intense than was Camille at any point in Camille's lifetime'(Never let the facts get in the way of a Black Cat argument)

If they were that common, don't you think NO would have levees capable of protecting it from them...

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Timexwatch


If you want something to cry about, get off at the Anacostia, North Capitol Street or Congress Heights and then you'll see a scary neighborhood.

Have you ever been to NO?

I still contend that NO is a far more poverty stricken city than DC. Most people that live there want to leave - but they can't afford it. Interestingly it was the friendliest city I visited in the US.

Even with a University degree and decent jobs, many young people are barely treading water here (including me). Once again you're ill-informed about what you're talking about.

High rent prices and cost of living sounds like the sign of a prosperous city to me...

[Drake Tungsten]

The point is that the connection appears to be producing more and stronger hurricanes than in the recorded history of the area due to the simple equation: warmer waters = stronger hurricanes.

That isn't true in the slightest.

Katrina is more intense than was Camille at any point in Camille's lifetime

Camille was more intense than Katrina at landfall, however, which is what really matters. The difference in their maximum intensity was also negligible: 905mb for Camille compared to 902mb for Katrina.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
That isn't true in the slightest.

You mean warmer waters don't create stronger hurricanes!!?

Camille was more intense than Katrina at landfall, however, which is what really matters. The difference in their maximum intensity was also negligible: 905mb for Camille compared to 902mb for Katrina.

So you agree with me that NO should have had better levee defences...

[Drake Tungsten]

You mean warmer waters don't create stronger hurricanes!!?

Apparently not...

http://eurota.blogspot.com/2005/08/eu-environmentalism-score-another-one.html

Seems that global warming is doing America a lot of good, in terms of hurricane prevention at least.

[Eli]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

You mean warmer waters don't create stronger hurricanes!!?

Apparently not...

http://eurota.blogspot.com/2005/08/eu-environmentalism-score-another-one.html

Seems that global warming is doing America a lot of good, in terms of hurricane prevention at least.

2001-2004 is not a complete decade. The guy in your link mentioned it but said nothing about the implications of that.

If you take the first chart which shows 9 hurricanes in a period of 4 years and assume an identical rate, you will have an expected number of 22-23 hurricanes during this decade. Well above the average.
The same is correct for the second chart.

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

You mean warmer waters don't create stronger hurricanes!!?

Apparently not...

http://eurota.blogspot.com/2005/08/eu-environmentalism-score-another-one.html

Seems that global warming is doing America a lot of good, in terms of hurricane prevention at least.

So your chart shows that we have already surpassed the hurricane average by a third for this decade with less than half the time elapsed...

And this proves me wrong how?

[MOBIUS]

Originally posted by Eli
If you take the first chart which shows 9 hurricanes in a period of 4 years and assume an identical rate, you will have an expected number of 22-23 hurricanes during this decade. Well above the average.
The same is correct for the second chart.

Eli put it better than me!

[Carolus Rex]

Hm... I thought it was standard 'Poly procedure to post information only in threads like this and not the usual OT personal attacks...

Carolus

[Dis]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


I blame you for using websites like FOX News and The Drudge Report when you know damn well they are spurious at best.

yeah I know

[Dis]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara
So, what happens to the Saints this season?

BTW, Slowwy multiple governments around the world are offering aid to the U.S., including our NATO allies (including France), Venezuela, etc. The U.S. has so far not responded to the offers. Typical BS of this administration, just like after 9/11.

where did you hear this? if true, then

[Dis]

Originally posted by SpencerH


They lose. No change there.

so true, so true.

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Originally posted by atawa
What is wrong with the word d.yke?????

nothing. I love dy kes. It's my mission in life to convert them. JK. My efforts further push them to dykism.

[Dis]

Originally posted by DanS
Not in the slightest. They're rooted rather firmly in the ground. Even mid-rises are rooted very, very firmly.

the corrosion can't be good. Sure the steel is surrounded by concrete. But concrete is not imperimablie (an impossible word to spell when I'm druink) to water.