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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If the National Guard can evacutate people after the storm, why can't they do it before the storm?
If the National Guard can evacutate people after the storm, why can't they do it before the storm?
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It takes time to fly from Bagdad to New Orleans.
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Well, looks like NO did end up with Lake Pontratrain in it.
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Originally posted by techumseh And there is no housing plan for the nearly 1 million people that are now homeless.
There are two housing issues, short term and long term. Short term, most of those whove left the area seem to be staying with friends or relatives. Others will have to be accomodated in shelters. Longer term, I read somewhere that FEMA has plans for everything from tent cities to cruise ships. Apparently these plans WERE made in advance, but Im cant vouch for that.
There will be lots of good questions to ask about the performance of various officials, but Id say at this point its somewhat early too judge."A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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In general its more efficient to let people evacuate themselves - which apparently 80% of the population of NO did. There will of course be questions about whether the state and city made any accomodation for folks without cars, or other resources. If I was an emergency planner in say, Fort Lauderdale, Id certainly want to make sure evacuation plans accommodate such folks. Im not sure the NG would be the best way to do it though.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
If the National Guard can evacutate people after the storm, why can't they do it before the storm?"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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The comments made by some of these anchor-morons are beyond words.Originally posted by Dis
CNN anchors are suggesting they house the people in the superdome on the deck of an aircraft carrier. First of all, it's less than 5 acres. Not enough room to house 30,000 people. Second of all, they would have no shelter. You could make tents and use the tie-downs to anchor the tents I suppose.
and third. Sleeping on non-skid would not be a pleasant experience.
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We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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1. It's not hundreds of thousands of people who don't have a car. Don't exaggerate. The vast majority of people have a car.Originally posted by techumseh
I have to say that the lack of planning for this hurricane is absolutely tragic. This was an event that was so predictable and so predicted, that the lack of real preparations are criminal. CNN keeps saying that the authorities are "overwhelmed", as if that is an excuse for the lack of an effective disaster plan. The confusion and lack of coordination of the relief agencies is obvious from watching the news coverage.
A day before the hurricane hit , the mayor of New Orleans said "everyone out", but forgot that 1/3 of the population has no car! There is no plan for those folks at all! The rich and middle income people got out, and the poor were left to drown. So they went to the Superdome, which has since become almost uninhabitable and the authorities have no plan to evacuate the people in it.
I watched the Governor of Mississippi lament the failure of many of his citizens to obey the evacuation order. He seems to have no idea that hundreds of thousands of poor people have no vehicle at all! Why was there not a real mobilization of transportation resources of the several states in time to get these people out? And there is no housing plan for the nearly 1 million people that are now homeless.
If this were not so tragic, it would be laughable. What a farce!
2. They had a 72-hour evacuation plan and this hurricane did unexpected things that shortened the available time.
3. This is a natural disaster of rather immense proportions. It is natural that it will take a couple of days to get a handle on things. Even in the US, where everything normally works.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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Just got an interesting insight from a co-worker who went down to NO thursday night and stayed till late saturday.
He said that they didnt bother to look at any TV till late saturday night so as far as they knew the hurricane was still moving westward. It wasnt until late sat night that they noticed the new storm track and when they heard about the evacuation notice decided to leave a little early (that night rather than sun).
I'll bet that a lot of 'revelers' were in the same state of ignorance.We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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They need to improve the quality of television so people watch TV more...Originally posted by SpencerH
Just got an interesting insight from a co-worker who went down to NO thursday night and stayed till late saturday.
He said that they didnt bother to look at any TV till late saturday night so as far as they knew the hurricane was still moving westward. It wasnt until late sat night that they noticed the new storm track and when they heard about the evacuation notice decided to leave a little early (that night rather than sun).
I'll bet that a lot of 'revelers' were in the same state of ignorance.
"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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IMO, if there was one thing that went right, it was the evacuation. I think it's amazing that 80% of the city was able to evacuate in like a day and a half with very little problems."I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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I agree, although I don't know where the 80% figure comes from in actual fact. Seems low.
If there were only 10,000 people who went to the superdome, then it seems likely to me that the city was pretty much empty.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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The 80% figure came from the government. All the people that are left are idiots who thought they could rid out the strom, tourists who had no idea a hurricane was coming, and poor people who did not have means to leave.Originally posted by DanS
I agree, although I don't know where the 80% figure comes from in actual fact. Seems low.
If there were only 10,000 people who went to the superdome, then it seems likely to me that the city was pretty much empty.Comment
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"Governor: Everyone Must Leave New Orleans" just out.
Evidently not all that empty.Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ BraindeadComment
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I am looking at live footage from Downtown New Orleans. It looks like the entire city is flooded now. People are on Interstate 10 to escape the flooding.Comment
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Yeh, but how do they know?The 80% figure came from the government.I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891Comment
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I think thats the rough percentage of people with vehicles.Originally posted by DanS
Yeh, but how do they know?"I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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