NFL Preseason Thread - Training Camp

[OzzyKP]

Well Lions lost last night, but its preseason, so whatever. Joey went 9 for 9 with 100 yards and no interceptions.



That being said, looks like the team was in the Red Zone 3 times in the game, and only had 3 points to show for it....

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
There is one problem with the prior statement... Bonds ain't a cheater, since baseball never banned such a substance when he was supposed to be on it.

And Artest is a jerk. I'd much rather use mentally ill claim on T.O.

Wasn't bonds on roids in 2002?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Do you mean 2004? That's the first time baseball banned steroids, IIRC.

There is nothing saying he was, IIRC. The 2004 sytem was anonymous, but I'm sure if he was guilty it would have come out (Hell, Palmeiro's steroid was leaked when it was supposed to be private info).

[asleepathewheel]

I believe they were banned in 2002 under the collective bargaining agreement, but the enforcement was weak. something about if some % tested pos, then something else would happen.

tough to find links to pre-2004 articles due to the recent deluge, but here is a recent fay vincent column citing it.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/editorials/mar05/308717.asp

edit: here you go: http://www.roadsidephotos.com/baseball/laborstatus.htm

[Kidlicious]

Steven Jackson got 47 yards on 7 carries Friday night against the Bears, and the Rams defense looked really tough, although that was against the Bears.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I believe they were banned in 2002 under the collective bargaining agreement, but the enforcement was weak. something about if some % tested pos, then something else would happen.

Hmm... well I'm not sure Bonds have ever been in the MLB treatment program (which was the first step in that collective bargaining agreement), so in all likelihood he never failed a test.

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
If it ain't against the rules, he didn't cheat. Case Closed. Ethics and morals have no role in deciding cheating. Furthermore, baseball has even sent players to the Hall of Fame who were obviously cheaters (Gaylord Perry who used a spitball for years, even though it was banned before he was born).

Oh, and in further news, the Bears are SCREWED!

If the Bears had their hopes on Grossman, they were already screwed.

ACK!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Errr... the Bears are EVEN MORE SCREWED!

[Brundlefly]

Bears sign QB Jeff Blake

[Ming]

Originally posted by bfg9000
Bears sign QB Jeff Blake

OH joy...

Shows how desperate the Bears are

It's amazing how all the media and many fans are saying how the Bears are dead before the season even starts. In fact, nobody really knows if Grossman could do the job or not... considering he had a whole 6 regular season games under his belt. Hell, Hutch might even be a better QB

I'll wait until the entire preseason is over, and seeing how the other QB's do before kissing off the Bears season... It's not like Grossman was a guaranteed Hall of Famer

[Zopperoni]

Hope springs eternal, eh?

[Brundlefly]

Whatever happened to Cade McNown?

[Zopperoni]

He's become good friends with Ryan Leaf.

[Brundlefly]

Didnt Culpepper get picked after McNown in the same draft?

[Ming]

Not really... It's just that for the last few years, it's been Grossman this and Grossman that... and frankly, we haven't even seen what he can do yet. The Bears defense looks good so far... all we really need is an average QB to avoid making the big mistakes, and score a "few" points. Nobody thought that Grossman was the next Payton Manning. Grossman could be awful for all we know... Hell, the season could have been over if Grossman stayed healthy

So again, I will reserve judgement through at least the end of the preseason.